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bobby p

does WFP work good on new cleans ?
« on: August 08, 2011, 06:45:55 am »
i ask this because im trad only but  ive now been  asked about my price for a job  . its not been touched in years so they say  . its a 4 storey  office block  built in the 1960s or 1970s  .mostly its a flat front but a few  side windows are set in deeper ledges .   the lower floor windows  i would do  all trad (i think)  , id need at least 2 goes with the scrubber and scrubbing quite hard too , the scraper needed for bird muck perhaps but i would know a good result was possible .

 what im getting at is you WFPolers do you know from experience   that you get perfect results with no problem as a rule on new cleans, or do some of these end up looking bad?. if they do look bad what happens next ?, how do you get paid ? .  do you lads sometimes have a helper inside the building giving you the thumbs up when the glass looks clean to their eyes ,if not,how can you see from below?.    and do you use a different brush for first cleans, to really scrub it good .

what is the standard expected ,is it the same as a picky housewife?


i dont really want to walk away from this job ,even though ive not ever touched a wfp before
 

 

the bfg

Re: does WFP work good on new cleans ?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 07:20:16 am »
a big point on this is the frames,    a building that old and not cleaned for several years would be the frames bleeding onto the glass and at 4 floors you prob would'nt see from the ground but would be very noticable from the inside.

there is a wasy cure for bleeding frames and thats a careful 2nd rinse after you have cleaned the whole building

but yes WFP would still do the job,  especially a hot water system.

Helen

Re: does WFP work good on new cleans ?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 01:42:54 pm »
Don't want to dampen your enthusiam on this one, but the first thing that jumps out at me is why have they not been cleaned for years? Are you likely to get repeat business from this or just hassle?
You say they have already asked you about your price, so how have you been able to quote it if you don't use WFP or have you considered cherry picker access? You must have had some idea what method when you put your price in.
If you get bad results:
Did you explain that due to the fact that they haven't been cleaned for years, and that the framework has not been maintained that results will be limited
How do you get paid:
What are your terms on the quote, have they agreed them?
Someone working the insides to check they are clean:
If the business will allow that to happen, do you want to pay someone to do that?
Standards expected:
Have you asked what their expectations are?
(By the way picky housewifes pay your bills ;D)

Personally under these circumstances I would walk and have a happy hassle free life thereafter :)

C.C.S.

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Re: does WFP work good on new cleans ?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2011, 05:10:31 pm »
Hi bobby .is the job in colchester as i could probably help you if you want .i have 35 ft pole which should do the job.

bobby p

Re: does WFP work good on new cleans ?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 05:19:20 pm »
CCS , i will give you the job if they bite at my price . im going to quote high , higher than i ever would normally  and see what happens.

 i really wanted to ask the guvnor if he would be happy with a mediocre quality  job, my fear is that it wont  clean up perfect on the top floor on the first clean.  i will want cash up front on it too-  how that goes down i dunno, i have yet to see his face !

 i have been recommended to him by a woman im now doing student accomodation blocks for,this is lower work.

HELEN- i have not given in my price yet , i had in mind budgetting for a secondhand big pole, a brush or 2  and  buying a tank of pure water for this 1 off job-whether it would lead on to being regular depends on whether they are happy or not .   it would be my first go with wfp, for sure id have a lad inside  checking as best he could that the job looked allrite .  i agree it sounds a hassle ,but  ....nothing ventured,nothing gained

C.C.S.

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Re: does WFP work good on new cleans ?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 05:21:25 pm »
CCS , i will give you the job if they bite at my price . im going to quote high , higher than i ever would normally  and see what happens.

 i really wanted to ask the guvnor if he would be happy with a mediocre quality  job, my fear is that it wont  clean up perfect on the top floor on the first clean.  i will want cash up front on it too-  how that goes down i dunno, i have yet to see his face !

 i have been recommended to him by a woman im now doing student accomodation blocks for,this is lower work.
ok no worries.what frames does the the building has

bobby p

Re: does WFP work good on new cleans ?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 05:35:36 pm »
they are grey metal , and the whole building is clad with panels that look very like metal too .  but its the windows only he asked about on the phone to me

 later in the week i will meet the guvnor and i will look closer at the job ,from the inside.   

 

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: does WFP work good on new cleans ?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 06:05:44 pm »
Yes wfp can work well on new cleans. The job you have mentioned with the metal frames might be problematic though as oxidisation can bleed from the frames onto the glass. It would be a hard job to do for someone inexperienced with wfp due to the height and the metal frames, but an experienced poler with a hot water set up would be able to do the job to a good standard, especially if they have access to the inside, so that they can spot clean any nasty runs.

I've done similar stuff in the past when it hasn't been done for years on the inside and out and the results are always impressive due to the difference it makes.

Simon.