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Re: the willis family
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2011, 08:45:25 pm »
Quote from: colin purewater on July 28, 2011, 08:42:30 pm
Quote from: Stu Mac on July 28, 2011, 08:36:58 pm
Not all this again ??? I thought this was all done to death months ago
its this or corri mate  ;D

corri then ;D
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Matt Gibson

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2011, 08:46:15 pm »
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Moderator David@stives

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2011, 08:47:12 pm »
 please dont use this as an attack on Willis, I cant see there nvq's having anything to do with your business,  they are entitled to to charge what they want, its a free world,

If they come to my town to take work, i would return the favour and move into there town to take work.

In reality if you spent time to speak to them you would benefit more than coming here and slagging them off.

To date I have being  over £50k in annual work off local window cleaners. In turn i give to work to plenty of windys in areas where i struggle.



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H S and Son

Re: the willis family
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2011, 09:04:48 pm »
Quote from: doctorwindows on July 28, 2011, 08:43:15 pm
I'll remind you of that when someone undercuts you and you whinge on here.

Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 08:01:26 pm
Who gives a sh!t. It happens all the time, so they undercut and they lie, why broadcast it on a global level?

Step outside your door mate and there'll be plenty more like that.

There's a fella who lives in the same road as me who leaflets my customers with 'we will beat any genuine price'.

Now what was it you were going to remind me of?

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Mike_G

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2011, 09:07:47 pm »
Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 09:04:48 pm
Quote from: doctorwindows on July 28, 2011, 08:43:15 pm
I'll remind you of that when someone undercuts you and you whinge on here.

Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 08:01:26 pm
Who gives a sh!t. It happens all the time, so they undercut and they lie, why broadcast it on a global level?

Step outside your door mate and there'll be plenty more like that.

There's a fella who lives in the same road as me who leaflets my customers with 'we will beat any genuine price'.

Now what was it you were going to remind me of?



But at least this chap is admitting he will undercut as opposed to those who do but deny it
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laddermonkee

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2011, 09:51:49 pm »
Who are the Willis family then?
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Moderator David@stives

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2011, 10:03:27 pm »
Who cares if people undercut, its called business.

The DON'T owe you or anyone any apologies or explainations, its there business not yours.

Get over it and concentrate on your own business
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mark311069

Re: the willis family
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2011, 10:09:49 pm »
Quote from: David morris @st-ives on July 28, 2011, 10:03:27 pm
Who cares if people undercut, its called business.

The DON'T owe you or anyone any apologies or explainations, its there business not yours.

Get over it and concentrate on your own business

you seem to defend this family all the time david? do they advertise on this site? does this site take money from them? iam sure you would not think this way if they lived near you
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mark311069

Re: the willis family
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2011, 10:14:54 pm »
iam surprised you nave not locked this thread already dave the last time this family was spoken about on here you locked the thread just because they threatened legal action so you ran a mile.
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Taylor & Taylor WC Services

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2011, 10:16:11 pm »
I had a feeling something was going on with them in Lincolnshire..

I'm in Stamford, so I guess I need to brace myself for their arrival if they've not already arrived?

I would be very uncomfortable with them undercutting in Stamford and Bourne.

I was until now booking on a course at the next available date with them but I don't think it'd be wise if they're coming to town!!

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gary999

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2011, 10:20:20 pm »
window cleaning must be the only area of business where
it is frowned upon to compete with the competition.

if any customer moves to another window cleaner for
a cheaper price thats there business,i def wouldnt drop
my price to compete as i charge fairly and if they want to
clean for less more fool them.

yep you lose a custie it normally doesnt take long to replace
them if you are good a what you do :)
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Taylor & Taylor WC Services

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2011, 10:23:05 pm »
Quote from: gary999 on July 28, 2011, 10:20:20 pm
window cleaning must be the only area of business where
it is frowned upon to compete with the competition.

if any customer moves to another window cleaner for
a cheaper price thats there business,i def wouldnt drop
my price to compete as i charge fairly and if they want to
clean for less more fool them.

yep you lose a custie it normally doesnt take long to replace
them if you are good a what you do :)


You are very right.

They're just a bit close for comfort for me and I wouldn't be comfortable training with them knowing that I'm also competing with them.
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Moderator David@stives

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2011, 10:27:30 pm »
No vested interest at all.

I just dont like a witch hunt,

as for them coming to my area or increased competition, BRING IT ON

My business accumen can compete with the best of the them
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davids3511

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2011, 10:27:59 pm »
Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 08:01:26 pm
Who gives a sh!t. It happens all the time, so they undercut and they lie, why broadcast it on a global level?

Step outside your door mate and there'll be plenty more like that.
What's the point of this forum then. Just about everthing on it happens all the time so why broadcast it on here?
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davids3511

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2011, 10:30:15 pm »
Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 09:04:48 pm
Quote from: doctorwindows on July 28, 2011, 08:43:15 pm
I'll remind you of that when someone undercuts you and you whinge on here.

Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 08:01:26 pm
Who gives a sh!t. It happens all the time, so they undercut and they lie, why broadcast it on a global level?

Step outside your door mate and there'll be plenty more like that.

There's a fella who lives in the same road as me who leaflets my customers with 'we will beat any genuine price'.

Now what was it you were going to remind me of?


That's not the same and you well know it.
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Moderator David@stives

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2011, 10:31:17 pm »
What goes on between and advertisers and admin, thats there business.

I have no involvement at all in that side of the forum

I just moderate.
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H S and Son

Re: the willis family
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2011, 10:37:18 pm »
Quote from: davids3511 on July 28, 2011, 10:27:59 pm
Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 08:01:26 pm
Who gives a sh!t. It happens all the time, so they undercut and they lie, why broadcast it on a global level?

Step outside your door mate and there'll be plenty more like that.
What's the point of this forum then. Just about everthing on it happens all the time so why broadcast it on here?

Good point. It's one I've acknowledged myself. Glad I could be of assistance in highlighting your point. Now where were we? WFP or ladders? Gardiners or omnipole? Fitted tank or ratchet straps? ;0)
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H S and Son

Re: the willis family
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2011, 10:39:24 pm »

Quote from: davids3511 on July 28, 2011, 10:30:15 pm
Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 09:04:48 pm
Quote from: doctorwindows on July 28, 2011, 08:43:15 pm
I'll remind you of that when someone undercuts you and you whinge on here.

Quote from: Matt. on July 28, 2011, 08:01:26 pm
Who gives a sh!t. It happens all the time, so they undercut and they lie, why broadcast it on a global level?

Step outside your door mate and there'll be plenty more like that.

There's a fella who lives in the same road as me who leaflets my customers with 'we will beat any genuine price'.

Now what was it you were going to remind me of?


That's not the same and you well know it.


You're right it isn't the same. It's worse, he's not being neighbourly.
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GB Window Cleaning

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2011, 10:40:36 pm »
never mind all this... just look at my ace new van mount and slx30 pole  :-*

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=128248.0
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gary999

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Re: the willis family
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2011, 10:42:22 pm »
Quote from: GB Window cleaning on July 28, 2011, 10:40:36 pm
never mind all this... just look at my ace new van mount and slx30 pole  :-*

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=128248.0
weve seen it...get over it!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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