[sam hughes]

for those of us making websites (I'm gonna eventually finish this month) I found a good deal with these http://www.streamlinenet.co.uk/hu.htm 18.99 1 year or 27.98 for 2 years for both domain name & hosting, seems quite good.

[STEVE71163]

Hi Samm
            What software are you using to produce your website I use    www.oneandone.co.uk
 for my web hosting and you get loads of free software which is worth a look if anyone is starting one soon.

Steve

[STEVE71163]

Forgot to say if you have no web building experience try their website creator which you can try without buying anything and see how easy it is

Steve

[matt]

If any1 wants me to knock up a single page for contact info etc

PM me, i will do it for a beer or 2

[Majestic]

Have you got one Matt

[sam hughes]

hello steve,
I started making it months ago (nothing fancy just few pages) & thought its about time I got it finished & on the net, I've been using macromedia mx, I got a bit of experience so I hopefully it will be ok, I post my link in week or so, let me know what you think.
I've got a photo or too to add, I take it is easy to update the site, can u leave some image placeholders till I got the photos and then add them in
My business is me full time and a friend 3 days week so dont need nothing fancy, I'll check out oneandone, cheers

sam

[STEVE71163]

Hi Samm,
             A good place to go for help with websites if you get stuck is

www.pcadvisor.co.uk

Click on the web design link and their are plenty of designers around that will give plenty of help

Steve

[Mark Betts]

Go to www.easily.co.uk to register domain namesa and also website hosting mega cheap


Mark

[matt]

not for my window cleaning

but i wrote the HTML for http://www.theknowledgezones.co.uk, the HTML isnt that great, but it does the trick

i did the "flash" intro for it aswell

and also did some hard codeing on the message board (sing up and have a looksie, its PC/website/tech based)

also knocked this site http://www.orchard-b-and-b.com/ for a mate, this is the type of page you can have for contact details etc etc

[STEVE71163]

For anyone interested here is the link for the website creator with one and one.

http://cm4all03.kundenserver.de/servlet/CMWizardLN?action=showMain&JServSessionIdservlet=80LXY26SJ6.S1081


Steve

[allseasons]

one&one  i have to say there hosting is realy poor, I will be moving very soon,  If you want a good site builder try www.tripod.com (veasy)

[STEVE71163]

Hi Micheal
              When you say one and one gives poor service. What problems have you had  I have been web building for some time now and found them first class. They have been voted no1 web hosts in Europe  3 years running (By their own satisfied customers) and their support is excellent.  Web creator and tripod etc are only meant for basic sites so i guess it would cut after an hour but you can always save and then go back to it.

Steve

[allseasons]

the Web creator is not very user freindly, i have loads of problem's
1. After 1 hour the web creator kick's you out and i have lost hour's of work.
2.and you have to careful when you push ur backspace samething again, lost loads of work with that.
3. it don't let you add any htlm of your own what's realy crap any one that has build a website will know this
4. it doesnt let you change the size of your picture's so if your pic 1200x1000 that's what show up on your page a right pain in the bum having change the size in firework's mx or other picture/web app
5. you only get a small amount font's i thinks there's about 4-5 .
6. and after all that and load of other problem's when you try and publish your site you get "sorry there's a problem with pubishing your site please try later" after a couple of hours your maybe lucky and it works.

voted no1 web hosts in Europe  3 years running (By their own satisfied customers)

sorry steve but they wouldnt get my voted. :-/

[STEVE71163]

Hi Micheal
              I was told by one and one that web creator is not really for web designers so you would not be able to use html(Its meant for people with no design experience) .But good results can be acheived with it as your site shows. Did you get Net objects 7 with your one and one package With that you would be able to do html and some of the other things you mention.


Steve

[karlosdaze]

On the subject of websites, my favorite is Johns of Majestic. Its strikes home for its simplicity, its easy to manouvre around, & you can pursue the information you require quickly. I get fed up with these "flash" introductions, waiting for the web page to load. If you go to the really big companies, rarely do you get all these marketing presentations, just straight in, with the logo, phone numbers & menu.
I think you also have to think of your market & who is likely to use your services. Most of your prosperous clients who can afford to use a window cleaner, have seen all these fancy presentations before, whereas your average grandma/grandad who isn't up to the task of window cleaning anymore, will probably just about know how to fill his email in, let alone surf the web.
I also like P Fogwills updated site, with the use of gifs kept to a minimum, & with the find quick menu.
Just my views............ :

[Majestic]

Thanks Karl,  
                   At the end of the day all you need to have on is what services  you provide , and contact details

[STEVE71163]

Hi Karl
         When i was putting my site together i got a lot of advice from full time web designers and they said keep it simple and dont use flash unless you really needed to. I agree with that because if you are on a dial up connection you can wait ages for it to load and most of us cant be bothered.

Steve

[matt]

karlosdaze i agree

thats why when im asked to do a webpage for others, i allways just use a 1 page design,

a web page only need to have contact details and a little "blerb" about your company

http://www.orchard-b-and-b.com/ does and says it all

the stuff i did at tKZ, the flash intro etc etc, was all about "proving" yourself, its sad, but like people on here say "oh i can clean 7 semi's a hour" the web design scene is the same, you need to be able to work in flash, while im not quite at that stage, i do desing pages for others (mainly for a few pints) but a few years ago it was a little earner for me

but as ive said, imho a 1 page site is great, no need for big pics etc, just palin and simple, afterall its just like a ad in yellow pages, but you put the link on the side of your van

[allseasons]

Hi steve just to let you know i have been trying to up date my website for the past 5 hour's with no luck,
1&1 suck's big time!!!!!!!

[STEVE71163]

Hi Micheal
              I just tried uploading my site from Frontpage to the one and one servers and it worked instantly Perhaps they are having problems with web creator :

Good Luck!

Steve