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Poll

as obviously are fixed costs have gone up over the last few years wondered how our average domestic job ticket has differed  over the last 3 years

gone up
59%
36 (59%)
gone down
13.1%
8 (13.1%)
stayed the same
27.9%
17 (27.9%)

Total Members Voted: 51

richy27

average price ticket over the last 3 years
« on: July 16, 2011, 09:53:54 am »
mine has gone up by 25 % this year with the same % growth in demand the last 3 years

Dave_Lee

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Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 05:52:02 pm »
Businesses can expect to grow if marketed efficiently until they level out as near saturation is reached.
After that when very few extra jobs can be taken on, it can only grow by increasing prices or the job ticket or both.
Mine has remained fairly constant over the last 3 years as I reduce general marketing and concentrate on existing customers.
Dave.
Dave Lee, Owner of Deepclean Services
Chorley Lancs. Est 1980.
"Pay Cheap -You get Cheap - Pay a little more and get something Better."

Linds Russell

  • Posts: 302
Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 12:42:12 pm »
Mine has gone up by 50% since I started 3 years ago. That is mainly due to pulling out of newspaper advertising which was good for job numbers but gave me my lowest average job ticket by a mile (I track all my advertising figures).
Linds

Simon Gerrard

  • Posts: 4405
Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 03:35:32 pm »
Surely average job ticket is irrelevant, total sales is the only true measure of how well or badly you are doing.

Simon

markpowell

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Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 04:33:49 pm »
The job ticket is important to some extent. You dont want to be working 7 days a week, 12 hours a day to earn £1000.
I agree the only figure that really matters is what is left in your pocket at the end of each month after all your business costs.
Mark

Simon Gerrard

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Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 04:51:58 pm »
Mark,
I think you mean hourly rate. The average job ticket is just a statistic, whereas £'s per hour is meaningful data that can be cross referenced against your financial plan.

Simon

richy27

Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 05:08:45 pm »
Surely average job ticket is irrelevant, total sales is the only true measure of how well or badly you are doing.

Simon

simon feel you miss understood what i was trying to find out is if people have put there prices up as costs have gone up or have they lowered their prices to try to increase demand .  to be honest the question is irrelevant to how people are actually doing.

i myself have increased prices to keep the same margin but have spent more on advertising to increase demand.

neil 47

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Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 05:09:00 pm »
If you worked it out again like a lot of cleaners who charge about £30 per ... well, you can do the maths yourself ...

You charge £30 per and you worked 4 hours a day (£30 x 4 = £120)
You work six days a week (6 x £120 = £720)
You work for 48 weeks a year (48 x £720 = £34,560)
 you'll only make just under £35k a year ...
take off the costs, tax etc... and your only making about £10,000 a year - Plus You Have To Find MORE JOBS!
IICRC

Simon Gerrard

  • Posts: 4405
Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 05:27:48 pm »
Richard,
An average job ticket isn't as accurate a measure as the hourly rate. If you've increased your charges you should see it reflected in your hourly rate and your hourly rate is a calculation arrived at by knowing all of your fixed and variable expenses and from that identify your target hourly rate so you can measure it against the actual hourly rate.
Having a higher average job ticket doesn't mean you are doing better, it may just mean from what jobs you do your average is higher than it was, that's why averages are only statistics and not useable data that tells you where you are in relationship to where you should be.

Simon

Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 05:37:58 pm »
To be honest I've never really given it that much thought due to all the varients that happen over a week.
I normally aim for £x/hour but sometimes I end up doing it for £(x-10)/hour and on a good day £(x+10)/hour or even £(x+20)/hour.
The only way to truely measure this would be to take your income per month (easily enough found) and devide by the number of hours worked, but does that include travel time to each job?

Jim_77

Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 05:59:25 pm »
Neil if you divided your monthly profit by your time spent on the job cleaning PLUS all of the actual hours spent working on your business (driving, servicing kit at home, doing paperwork etc etc...) ..... it'd probably work out not much higher than minimum wage!

Scary, but hey ho we do this because we love it!

colin thomas

  • Posts: 813
Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 07:35:45 pm »
i'm with you there jim, there are some jobs i finish and i don't like to think what the profit is,

 :o  colin
colin thomas

Warren Aldridge

  • Posts: 260
Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 07:52:36 pm »
Ive been dividing the job price by the hours. Hours are calculated from getting out the van on arrival and driving off.
But, this is actually an unrealistic figure.

If you want to really work out your hourly rate or what you earn, then divide the money by the full days hours.
From when you drive out your drive, until you arrive home at the end of the day.

If you really want to depress yourself then add all the research and admin time after hours.

Some of us, like me being a newbie "work" until 11 at night. However its still fun and interesting at this stage.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 09:01:54 pm »
The most accurate figure would be when you arrive at your clients address then leave your last clients address, I can't remember ever getting paid to drive from home to work and work to home.

Shaun

Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 09:28:08 pm »
Neil ..... it'd probably work out not much higher than minimum wage!

I'm going to run that one by the accountant next time he's around ;D

Warren Aldridge

  • Posts: 260
Re: average price ticket over the last 3 years New
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2011, 05:59:16 pm »
The most accurate figure would be when you arrive at your clients address then leave your last clients address, I can't remember ever getting paid to drive from home to work and work to home.

Shaun


Because we have field based clients we are effectively outbound reps. The hours we drive in a day makes a difference to how much we can earn.

A rep gets paid his salary and that includes him driving around to clients, even if he has to travel the whole day. Then he gets his commission from sales on top. I can earn more money in a day if my jobs are all in my area, therefore I count travel time when calculating hourly rates.