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sair

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Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2005, 04:48:04 pm »
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brookie12

  • Posts: 47
Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2005, 06:47:29 pm »
i had a demo by sky pole from southampton and it was the nuts and i orderd a trailer from them.

as i waited for the trailer i changed my mind and wanted to buy there demo van, but  what a company thay told me that i should walk before i can run

all i have to say is give skypole in southampton a ring thay are a top company and at a very good price.

all the best

brookie

neil100

  • Posts: 1137
Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2005, 06:54:59 pm »
Sos Tony,

Not had time to call today,Weather has been good up here today.So put a full days hard graft in.If you want to email the pics and prices my e mail is,  neillawlor@tiscali co.uk.

Cheers Nel.

neil100

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Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2005, 07:07:20 pm »
Cheers Brookie,

I was on the phone to stuart from Skypole yesterday. Very impressed with his telephone manner, and the fact that he never slaged off any of his competitors. He firmly belevies in the quality of his products and very knoweldgable.

I live 30 miles south of the lake district, and hes willing to come up and give me a free demo even though it means staying in an hotel overnight. Impresive.

What did you think of their tank system Brookie?

Did you buy poles, etc as well?

Did you buy their demo van then?

Anyone else recommend skypole?

Thanks Nel

Old_Master

Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2005, 12:11:31 am »
Its funny but we have never really had to travel to carry out demos for many years, nor have we had to "sell" our systems.
Our demonstrations are always on our own jobs, where our window cleaners teach the customer how to do the job with as little effort or fuss as possible.
Our customers can stay as long as they like learning about doing the work at different types of jobs.
Many customers come for a full day or two the longest a customer has been with our team was two weeks!!.
The two week customer travelled 120 miles every day working along side our guys from 7.30 in the morning until 4.30 in the afternoon learning everything he could from them and checking with our customers that they were happy with wfp and checking glass to ensure it really was clean.
Once he had totally mastered the techniques and was totally confident the Omnipole system would work for him he placed his order, confident he could come back any time and learn from guys who do wfp work every day.
This way seems to work for our customers.

brett walker

  • Posts: 1943
Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2005, 11:00:28 am »
Watched Rogue Traders last night on BBC1, i know they was'nt selling window cleaning equipment but if you watched the programme thats what you call hard sell  ::)

Brett

neil100

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Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2005, 11:04:30 pm »
Wow.

Went to Brodex at Southport on Friday<First impresions wernt good, Due to its location which was down an allyway, it felt like going to phill mitchells garage out of Eastenders.

Once inside Things improved rapidly,fourtantly I got to look round A transit van that Had just been fitted out with their 3G 650 RO tank.Protecta-kote van floor done as well.Hoses,poles, the works.

I know their stuff is pricey£4895.00 +vat for the tank to be fitted in the van.But its a work of art, it should be in the taite gallery as an Art exhibit its that awe inspiring to look at.wow;;

I cant afford it really,so I might have to sell my body on the street to make some extra cash.The guy who owns the tanny van is from London so he will be well pleased when he sees it.

Their was no hard sell,just practical and helpfull advice,

But i now dream of their tanks, sad I know.

Nel

busydaffodil

Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2005, 11:09:20 pm »
Sometimes first impressions are not right.   
I'm sure you'll get what you want eventually.
Glad you have found what your looking for.

Lizzy

matt

Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2005, 05:54:29 pm »
I allways find these questions funny

you have allready decided to get WFP system

now the choice really inst important, whoever you call or have a demo with will tell you the same

Our system is the best, X and Y's system isnt as good as ours

a Van mount is :

a big tank
a pump
a variflow unit
some connections
some hose
a pole
a brush
and a RO or DI unit

get where i am coming from ?? ?? ??

Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2005, 06:16:21 pm »
I get where you are coming from Matt.

However, one or two points.

A professional company will NEVER say "our stuff is the best and X's isn't as good" What they do is point out the benefits of their system to the prospective customer. Just as it sounds like it happened in Neils case. ( Or is it Nel)  ???

Re the tank. It should be baffled, and in my opinion professionally fitted. NO WAY do I want 6-7-8 or a thousand Kilos carrying on at a high rate of travel if I stop suddenly.

There is a guy around my way working out of a van with a 1000ltr IBC strapped down. Yes he has saved money but it may cost him or others their lives. Some things are better left to those who can do the job and guarantee it.

As to the rest.. I agree.

So if I were to go van mount I would go to a well recognised and reputable company to get the tank fitted and probably do the rest myself.

Andrew



matt

Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2005, 06:26:39 pm »
I get where you are coming from Matt.

However, one or two points.

A professional company will NEVER say "our stuff is the best and X's isn't as good"



you have never seen any of brodex's posts then  ::)

Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2005, 06:28:58 pm »
 :-X   ;)   ;D

matt

Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2005, 06:47:01 pm »
 ;) ;D

neil100

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Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2005, 07:28:18 pm »
Andey,

Its Neil, Nel his my nickname.

Thanks for Your reply,The only reason I,m asking abut demos is that I have three demos booked in the next three weeks. I know they all are going to recommend their own systems, But Logic dictates I ask how others have got on in the past.

I've got 26 years experince as a w/cleaner, made a good living and raised a family,
I now want to clean windows as safetly as I can,hence wfp.

My freinds who have allready converted to wfp say I will hate it for 3 or 4 months, I know that, but I dont want to waste money buying a Micky mouse system. I am well aware what damage  a badly fixed tank can do,

I want to buy a system that looks right,Only adding a mobile unit if it means I will be more effecient, which means more money. Your mobile system looks well designed and made,its a credit to you.

Regards Nel.

brookie12

  • Posts: 47
Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2005, 07:37:21 pm »
neil mate i got the lot from sky pole and thay did me a top deal would highly recomend them to any one i got a 400ltr trailer and 3 poles 200m of hose and loads of bits and bobs top stuff
like a cat that got the cream..... :)

neil100

  • Posts: 1137
Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2005, 07:50:09 pm »
O right Brookie mate,

yep I had a chat on the phone with stuart from skypole,He's willing to travel up to the norhwest to give me a demo.

HE said he would email me some pics of the tank in the demo van,and send me a brouchure,None arrived.

Did you manage to knock some money off their list price.
You were impressed with their van set up, But did you look at any other van setups?
How far do you live from Southampton?

Cheers Nel

Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2005, 09:32:39 pm »
Gotcha now Nel mate  ;D

Thanks for the compliment about the Freedom trolley, it's selling like hot cakes!!! So much so that I am still using the original prototype.. I can't get the "finished" product made for myself at the mo  :(

Yes I know what your mates mean. The first time around was like learning the whole thing over again.. where to put this.. where to put that etc but we now absolutely flyyyyyyyyy around. What used to take us 4 weeks now takes us under 3!!!  And that's doing mainly 1st floor upwards only with the trolley system so we are now knocking etc to get another weeks worth of work.

I can understand exactly why you want to go and get a "ready made" package. Image.. guarantees.. back up etc all cost money but can be well worth the investment.

Whatever system you go for respect to you for having the commitment to do this for your safety and business.

Andrew

neil100

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Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2005, 05:24:00 pm »
Just had ionics demo at home, cracking bit of kit. tanks ,poles the lot.

No hard sell,just sound and practical advice.Loved their tank as well.

It costs about £650.00 to have the tank fitted, about the same as brodex.Including side ports fitted.

Just got skypole and tuker poles to see then  i will decide.

Nel

brookie12

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Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2005, 06:29:35 pm »
neil mate i live 45 mins from them and no i sort of new what i wanted the vn sytems are fantastic but i also nee my van for all my other gear as i run a cleaning company not just window cleaning so the trailer was the way ahead for me

neil100

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Re: Are demos hardsell?
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2005, 06:55:31 pm »
Hi Brookie mate,

Thanks for reply,

Skypole have emailed me the photos at last,and a brouchere is on the way from them.Expecet a demo next week from them, theirs another chap who lives in lancaster who wants a demo as well,so tyey want to do us both on the same day.

Had Ionics demo today,cracking kit but pricey.

You never know I might in your neck of the woods for a day if I choose skypole.

Cheers Nel.