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cozy

Re: Groupon
« Reply #140 on: July 16, 2011, 08:57:08 am »
Yeah, if you say so, but the point is to get an answer to a question or get advice. If diplomacy isn't a priority, then that's the way it is. People are people. As long as they don't end up threatening eachother.......

John Kelly

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #141 on: July 16, 2011, 09:23:27 am »
Still can't understand why that guy is offering a further 50% discount on any additional work. Surely if he's doing the first 3 carpets for nothing, which he is, £11 would hardly cover your transport cost, you have to maximise any add on work to make this pay not give half of it away. And don't forget discounts come striaght off your bottom line.

Doug Holloway

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #142 on: July 16, 2011, 03:31:39 pm »
Hi Guys

Have you also noticed he is offering 9 to 7, 7 days a week.

The whole thing looks like a waking nightmare to me.

Jason you say you have set up several CC businesss's, why not go back to basics and organise a really good leaflet campaign.

With 20K to spend over say 6 months you should be looking good in a couple of years time.

Cheers

Doug

John Kelly

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #143 on: July 16, 2011, 04:30:40 pm »
That deal in Bournemouth ended last night with 537 sold. Thats 2 carpets plus the hallway for £28 of which the operator gets just over £11. The offer expires on 16th October 2011. That means he has to do over 6 of these a day 7 days a week from now until the deadline.
6 jobs a day for £11 is £66, £462 over 7 days. Hope he's young and fit because he's going to kill himself. Just the thought of doing this over 6 times in 1 day for £66 would make me want to top myself :o

I don't think anyone using this is going to pay one cent more to have more work done. They have seen it as it is a bargain price to have 3 carpets clean for vitually nowt. Its also taken 537 potential customers for other cleaners in that area out of the equation.
Commercial suicide.

cozy

Re: Groupon
« Reply #144 on: July 16, 2011, 04:36:49 pm »
That deal in Bournemouth ended last night with 537 sold. Thats 2 carpets plus the hallway for £28 of which the operator gets just over £11. The offer expires on 16th October 2011. That means he has to do over 6 of these a day 7 days a week from now until the deadline.
6 jobs a day for £11 is £66, £462 over 7 days. Hope he's young and fit because he's going to kill himself. Just the thought of doing this over 6 times in 1 day for £66 would make me want to top myself :o

I don't think anyone using this is going to pay one cent more to have more work done. They have seen it as it is a bargain price to have 3 carpets clean for vitually nowt. Its also taken 537 potential customers for other cleaners in that area out of the equation.
Commercial suicide.

Post of the thread.

derek west

Re: Groupon
« Reply #145 on: July 16, 2011, 05:41:07 pm »
That deal in Bournemouth ended last night with 537 sold. Thats 2 carpets plus the hallway for £28 of which the operator gets just over £11. The offer expires on 16th October 2011. That means he has to do over 6 of these a day 7 days a week from now until the deadline.
6 jobs a day for £11 is £66, £462 over 7 days. Hope he's young and fit because he's going to kill himself. Just the thought of doing this over 6 times in 1 day for £66 would make me want to top myself :o

I don't think anyone using this is going to pay one cent more to have more work done. They have seen it as it is a bargain price to have 3 carpets clean for vitually nowt. Its also taken 537 potential customers for other cleaners in that area out of the equation.
Commercial suicide.
wheres the like button,  ;D

6 of these a day over 7 days until october to keep everyone happy. :o he won't have time to do any add ons, or the energy either.
madness

Doug Holloway

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #146 on: July 16, 2011, 05:54:16 pm »
Hi Guys

I see they have started to advertise on Google adwords.

Cheers

Doug

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #147 on: July 16, 2011, 05:55:00 pm »
It pays to know your figures, they could have done 1 x £25 2 x £45 with free hall and I bet they still would have bitten okay Groupon will take a chunk but it at least doubles his figures.

Shaun

jon barnes

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #148 on: July 16, 2011, 07:14:29 pm »
Very few people only spend the 28 quid , the vast majority have other items to clean ..


how do you know this? if i was a consumer using Groupon i would just do the deal and wait for another to come along if i needed anymore doing. if somebody is being that price conscious they arent going to care who does it as long as they get it cheap. that means its then cheaper to get several cleaners to come out over time rather than one person doing a bulk job. i would think a lot of people would rather do one or two rooms at a time if they didnt have to pay a higher minimum job ticket every time

Re: Groupon
« Reply #149 on: July 16, 2011, 09:07:52 pm »
over 6 of these a day 7 days a week from now until the deadline.
£462 over 7 days.
Hope he's young and fit because he's going to kill himself.
Its also taken 537 potential customers for other cleaners in that area out of the equation.

Just the point I was trying to make.
And just how are you going to sell 'add ons' when every working minute is already acccounted for between now and Mid October.

On the plus side....when all these carpet cleaners have either gone bust or died from stress there'll be more work for those of us left, or perhaps potential customers will quickly learn that you get what you pay for.

robert meldrum

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #150 on: July 16, 2011, 11:54:46 pm »
Cozy

Some of the " bods " you refer to have been posting on here for 7 or 8 years and are respected businessmen.

cozy

Re: Groupon
« Reply #151 on: July 17, 2011, 12:06:19 am »
Cozy

Some of the " bods " you refer to have been posting on here for 7 or 8 years and are respected businessmen.

So what? That makes them what? Allways right? It was a tongue in cheek remark. If it offends you and you have a sense of humour break down, get over it and forget it.










I will.

PaulKing

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #152 on: July 17, 2011, 07:46:41 am »
Has anyone else though someone might be running a crew of ( god knows what) that are going to power through this 600 in no time flat ( seem to remember there a few legally distinct ;)  big bait and switch outfits  in or near  Bournemouth)

A hypothetical secenario might be.
 
there is a £100 p-take rinse on the job that your carpet needs, along with a £500 stabilising solution because its polyprop you see madam. And of course numpty tax at 99% and if you don't accept it it's bye bye as they can't do the job, it not safe you see.
So 50% off that is great and they get  £11 to drive to the door and have a go at ripping the customer off.

Think about it,seems quite good if you that kind of outfit. Possibly.

Or it a large outfit running a loss leader to kill the competition, but I,d put my money on the first all scams appeal to the greedy nature so the extra 50% is just sweetener

That or hell take the money and run is my guess
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Gary Humphreys

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #153 on: July 17, 2011, 08:09:06 am »
He cant run anywhere until he has the Groupon voucher from the customer.

Helen

Re: Groupon
« Reply #154 on: July 17, 2011, 08:11:57 am »
I think you are probably right about a crew doing this. If you look at their website www.bournemouthcarpetcleaners.com there are some flowers the bottom of the page with "southampton carpet cleaners" on it........substitue the bournemouth bit for Southampton in the web address and you get:

The site southamptoncarpetcleaners.com has been disabled. Please contact support.
Hope fully they are doing this deal and moving on quickly, then it may just be a flash in the pan.....as John said there goes 500+ jobs for the rest of that areas CC'ers :)

clinton

Re: Groupon
« Reply #155 on: July 17, 2011, 09:50:21 am »
Just been on sky news about the groupon down in the south..think its still on now sky news..


wynne jones

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #157 on: July 17, 2011, 10:11:21 am »
Sounds like Groupon would be a very good way to get a lot of customers fast. It is a form of leverage but like most things if you haven't got it right you only magnify the problem.



  
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John Kelly

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #158 on: July 17, 2011, 10:12:11 am »

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Re: Groupon
« Reply #159 on: July 17, 2011, 10:20:37 am »
As John Kelly pointed out,you`d have to be young and fit to do all that
Work !
What about the jobs you do where the customer complains about the
Shrinkage,colour running or whatever else they complain about?????
Do you go back,or what is the situation here ?
Thanks for replies.


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