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jason1

  • Posts: 88
none papers
« on: June 27, 2011, 01:40:02 pm »
I did a job 10 weeks ago (guttering) sent invoice , reminders been to house few times, keep getting told lady in work who pays bills so in other words keep get fobbed off, just wondering whatyou guys do in these situations its not the money that bothers me (well it is but i think we do the job we should get paid)but the princiable behind it, if you let it go how many more are going to try  it on and not pay it not as if i can go around demanding the money is it

whats your thoughts on this

thanks jay

GB Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 3262
Re: none papers
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 01:43:40 pm »
send final demand letter then get a debt collecting agencie involved, bet they'll pay up quick then!  ;) thats what i plan to do if and when this happens to me mate

GB

AuRavelling79

  • Posts: 25405
Re: none papers
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 02:04:16 pm »
OK - start afresh. Assuming it's worth the bother/principle - £50 plus for bother £10 plus for principle! ;D

Who asked for the work to be done? Go to them. If it's "the lady in work" and work isn't far away then turn up at the offices and ask at reception.

Get her name and job description. And phone number. Phone up and ask to speak to her. If she is senior then you have to get through the receptionist. Ask to speak to "Mrs XXX in Accounts payable, please."

You might get a couple of "not ins" (AKA here but hiding) but if you get through say I was told by AAA at (where you did the work address) that you were responsible for settling the account for cleaning their gutters; I have been waiting ten weeks now - can I have my money please?

You will get either of:

Yes here it is/I need authorisation/our payment run is next week next month etc./wotchoo onabout?

Slowly and methodically work your way through all the excuses until you get paid.

If you find the answers unacceptable and you won't be messed around then tell Mrs Lady that you will down her offices and that you expect the matter to be sorted and your money paid.

Make good on your promise and turn up on the next rainy day when you would not otherwise be working.

Go to office and in reception ask to speak to Mrs Lady. If sorted then great. If fobbed off don't let it ruin your day but explain "I'll be back"  ;D

Now your goal is to embarrass the company. Sit in reception, cause a non-violent fuss; say loudly "I've done the work I expect to be paid!"

The best one is to make a placard saying "XYZ Ltd are bullies. They owe the window cleaner £50 and won't pay him!" and stand outside just as they are arriving for work.

If they call the police walk away immediately saying loudly "Don't worry I'm leaving! But I'll never forget!"

*Go home and plan your strategy, my dear Colonel!

*Go online to www.nerdarmyreenactmentsareus.co.uk and ask to borrow an armoured car. Go to their offices with a grappling hook and smash their reception windows and drag the frame out.

*If they still won't pay then get a flight to the Ukraine and pick up a secondhand battlefield nuclear weapon that will work in a bazooka. Go back and nuke'em!

*Ok maybe somewhere around the last two or three suggestions I went off into fantasyland!  ;D
It's a game of three halves!

steve rix

  • Posts: 816
Re: none papers
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 04:14:41 pm »
Try Money claim online

Pope vader

  • Posts: 1944
Re: none papers
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2011, 04:29:58 pm »
liek steve rix said, just got to money on line and get a court order if they done pay they get a ccj  

dont bother with debt collectors, unless they got  acourt order they aint got power to enter property and most people know this

lyndy

  • Posts: 384
Re: none papers
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 05:19:39 pm »
A £3 letter from Ingram find them online,should do the trick

EandM

  • Posts: 2182
Re: none papers
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 06:39:21 pm »
OK - start afresh. Assuming it's worth the bother/principle - £50 plus for bother £10 plus for principle! ;D

Who asked for the work to be done? Go to them. If it's "the lady in work" and work isn't far away then turn up at the offices and ask at reception.

Get her name and job description. And phone number. Phone up and ask to speak to her. If she is senior then you have to get through the receptionist. Ask to speak to "Mrs XXX in Accounts payable, please."

You might get a couple of "not ins" (AKA here but hiding) but if you get through say I was told by AAA at (where you did the work address) that you were responsible for settling the account for cleaning their gutters; I have been waiting ten weeks now - can I have my money please?

You will get either of:

Yes here it is/I need authorisation/our payment run is next week next month etc./wotchoo onabout?

Slowly and methodically work your way through all the excuses until you get paid.

If you find the answers unacceptable and you won't be messed around then tell Mrs Lady that you will down her offices and that you expect the matter to be sorted and your money paid.

Make good on your promise and turn up on the next rainy day when you would not otherwise be working.

Go to office and in reception ask to speak to Mrs Lady. If sorted then great. If fobbed off don't let it ruin your day but explain "I'll be back"  ;D

Now your goal is to embarrass the company. Sit in reception, cause a non-violent fuss; say loudly "I've done the work I expect to be paid!"

The best one is to make a placard saying "XYZ Ltd are bullies. They owe the window cleaner £50 and won't pay him!" and stand outside just as they are arriving for work.

If they call the police walk away immediately saying loudly "Don't worry I'm leaving! But I'll never forget!"

*Go home and plan your strategy, my dear Colonel!

*Go online to www.nerdarmyreenactmentsareus.co.uk and ask to borrow an armoured car. Go to their offices with a grappling hook and smash their reception windows and drag the frame out.

*If they still won't pay then get a flight to the Ukraine and pick up a secondhand battlefield nuclear weapon that will work in a bazooka. Go back and nuke'em!

*Ok maybe somewhere around the last two or three suggestions I went off into fantasyland!  ;D

A most enjoyable post   ;D

Ian Lancaster

  • Posts: 2811
Re: none papers
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 07:26:04 pm »
We use this:

Modify to suit.  Never failed yet ;)





Dear Ms ,

Re: Window Cleaning Services at 
Following your original request for window cleaning services at the above address, you accepted our offer of service on a regular six monthly basis at a price of £30 per visit.  We cleaned them initially on the 24th of April 2009, for which payment was subsequently received. 

Our second visit in accordance with the contract was on the 22nd October and our invoice was submitted to Norman Road as required.

No payment has been received and three telephone requests for payment have been ignored.

We must now insist on full payment within 14 days of the above date.  The sum required is the invoice total of £30 plus a late payment additional charge of £10 to cover our costs in chasing this debt.

If we do not receive a cheque in the sum of £40 by Friday the 15th January 2010 we will take one of the following actions:

1.     We may apply to the Small Claims Court, this action will incur additional costs, and we have access to expert legal assistance via the Federation of Small Businesses which could involve further costs to be borne by you.

2.    We may sell the debt to a professional debt collection agency.  This will involve you in considerable extra expense.


Yours sincerely,



Ian Lancaster
Director: Ian Lancaster Window Cleaner Ltd.

www.ianlancaster.co.uk



Please forward a cheque for the full amount of £40.00 made payable to “Ian Lancaster Window Cleaner” to the above address.




pristinewindows

  • Posts: 98
Re: none papers
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2011, 07:49:25 pm »
Get a tattooed and pierced  bodybuilder to call for the dosh on commission

jason1

  • Posts: 88
Re: none payers
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2011, 08:14:40 pm »
Thanks for replys guys few ideas there for me to ponder on

AuRavelling79

  • Posts: 25405
Re: none papers
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 07:24:42 am »
>Ian Lancaster

I've just come back from orbiting planet Zog and read your post - why do you always talk common sense and bring me back to Earth?

Good one.
It's a game of three halves!