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big dave

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Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« on: June 17, 2011, 04:50:04 pm »
If you live within a 30 mile radius of Boston then there is a good chance you are experiencing undercutting right now.
I posted on here yesterday regarding this but my post was removed and the thread was locked so I assume the company involved may have something to do with this forum?
What is the general feeling towards undercutting?
This company is going around both business and domestic saying “do you want a window cleaner?” If they are told by someone that they already have a cleaner they say “how much are you being charged? Whatever it is we will beat it”
In my book this is wrong. Especially as this company promotes good working practices nationally.

Tom White

Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 04:54:17 pm »
I wouldn't do it because I'm on friendly terms with all my local window cleaners, and I wouldn't want to work cheaply either.

But really, when you consider all those utility site compare.coms and insurance supermarkets who allow us to compare and choose cheaper, why should window cleaning be viewed any differently?

Do you stay with one van insurance company for life just because the broker sounds like a nice guy?

I'm also glad I don't live within 30 miles of Boston.

Tom White

Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 04:55:22 pm »
I posted on here yesterday regarding this but my post was removed and the thread was locked so I assume the company involved may have something to do with this forum?

That is bang out of order too.  Repost the details, please, but stick with the facts and then the post should remain.

Helen

Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 04:56:47 pm »
Certainly don't agree with the way they are doing it, but unfortunately it is fast becoming a way of life.  As Tosh said, if it's good enough for Tesco and EDF who are we to argue :)

Tom White

Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 05:00:08 pm »
If they are told by someone that they already have a cleaner they say “how much are you being charged? Whatever it is we will beat it”


I bet they wouldn't with some of the prices I know that's being charged!  ;D

luther1

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 05:01:56 pm »
If they did in certain areas where i live then their vans wouldn't be roadworthy the next day. One window cleaner tried that a few years ago by offering to undercut for 50p and had his van windscreen smashed. Whoever is doing that in Boston will become unstuck.

Tom White

Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 05:03:22 pm »
If they did in certain areas where i live then their vans wouldn't be roadworthy the next day. One window cleaner tried that a few years ago by offering to undercut for 50p and had his van windscreen smashed. Whoever is doing that in Boston will become unstuck.

Tyres is better.  With windscreen protection it only costs £60 to £100 to get a new one fitted.  Makes a noise too.

Not that I'm condoning this sort of reprehensible thuggish behaviour mind.

Just sayin', that's all.

luther1

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 05:05:13 pm »
Would you recommend a stanley knife or screw driver Tosh,hypothetically,obviously. :)

Tom White

Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 05:07:58 pm »
Stanley knife; new blade works best! 

Joking joking joking, I'm joking!   ;D


bumper

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 05:10:33 pm »
I can undercut all the window cleaners in stockport because my dole money helps me out alot and i dornt pay tax and NI and councill tax,plus my dear old mother  died a few years ago and im still claiming her pension,but the flat smells and theres just rags and bone left ;D

luther1

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 05:11:54 pm »
I should imagine that a four letter word beginning in c and ending in t, brushed on a van with nitromors would be quite unsightly.

Tom White

Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 05:16:15 pm »
I should imagine that a four letter word beginning in c and ending in t, brushed on a van with nitromors would be quite unsightly.

CART?  ???

(Apologies for hijacking the post; I'm obviously seeking attention; no more daft ones from me).

big dave

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 05:17:27 pm »
I posted on here yesterday regarding this but my post was removed and the thread was locked so I assume the company involved may have something to do with this forum?

That is bang out of order too.  Repost the details, please, but stick with the facts and then the post should remain.

I may post the details later of the company involved but would rather hear everyones views first as I imagine the post will be deleted.


Johnny B

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2011, 05:21:31 pm »
I was recently cleaning a house when the neighbour next door asked me if I was going to clean his windows. I said I'd be round when I was done here.

Went round, gave him a price. He said he'd better check with the wife. He came out and said they already had a window cleaner, and he charged £3 less than I quoted him, but could I do it for this same price. I declined, as I didn't realize they already had a windy, and didn't want to take his work.

As it turned out, I know his windy. He's a nice bloke, doesn't charge enough really, but has given me work for free in the past which has turned out to be very good work which is well priced, so I would never do the dirty on him.

John.
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2011, 05:22:18 pm »
I posted on here yesterday regarding this but my post was removed and the thread was locked so I assume the company involved may have something to do with this forum?

That is bang out of order too.  Repost the details, please, but stick with the facts and then the post should remain.

I may post the details later of the company involved but would rather hear everyones views first as I imagine the post will be deleted.



are you in boston then dave? im in lincoln!

luther1

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2011, 05:24:43 pm »
Its unethical and the company in question knows it,which is why the post was deleted. It will certainly be deleted again through fear of vandalism

Perfect Windows

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2011, 05:29:46 pm »
Is undercutting acceptable?

Yes. If you quote your normal price for a job and it happens to be less than the previous cleaner, that's OK.  In my eyes, that's just business.

No.  If you deliberately price just to be lower than the previous cleaner (as in this case).  It's also completely counterproductive as you're taking work on the basis of someone else's method of doing business rather than your own.  How can you guaranee your own profitability on the job?  Also short-sighted as you're only going to get the price-conscious customers who will move on the moment someone undercuts you.

Vin


andyM

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2011, 05:30:09 pm »
It's crystal clear to me who the company is because they advertise on here and are always banging on about the training courses they offer  ;)
Sounds very underhanded to me if this is true.
One of the Plebs

Perfect Windows

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bumper

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Re: Undercutting. Acceptable or not?
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2011, 05:37:21 pm »
crystal clear neaver heard of them