[Cliff Horne]

Been asked to wash underneath of a garage canopy, how would you guys go about this?

[Alan McTernan]

Hi Cliff,

When you say garage canopy! Do you mean a domestic lean-to or a commercial big (petrol) station?

Also how grubby is it?

Regards
Alan

[Cliff Horne]

Petrol station canopy not very grubby

[jmb]

scissor lift and reach and wash it if its not to bad  :)oh and barriers:)

[Rob_Mac]

Cliff

Firstly apologies that I never got the risk assessment back to you last weekend. Do you still need it.

As far as your fuel station canopy.

You should have specialist insurance to clean on fuel stations

Rob

[jaespray]

hi cliff   just a few other things to remember
you and your machine must comply with all h/s regs
and that little thing called insurance
all i can say is   very good luck  but dont order the scissor lift just yet
regards john

[BDCS]

They usually require your engine to have a flame arrester and a chalwyn valve - I don't know why my van ain't got one

http://www.chalwyn.co.uk/

[Rob_Mac]

If you get the insurance

We get asked to do the canopies regularly and I have one booked in for next week.

You can clean a fuel station canopy from the floor using an extending pressure washing lance, make sure you tidy up all the pumps etc afterwards and expect to get soaked as you will be working directly undeneath the water coming down.

I use this method because it is quick, you can save the cost of access and I have a bit of a thing for getting wet!!!

Consider when the fuel station closes, whether it remains open 24 hours and whether people use the forecourt as a walk through

Good luck

Rob

[jaespray]

the chalwyn fittings alone will exceed the price you will put in for the job
regards john

[Rob_Mac]

Jae

I don't know how the insurance sits if you work with the machine off the fuel station. We tend to do this and work from long hose lengths. I keep the maqchine well away from the actual canopy!

No spark issues then

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

i was just about to say that. get some long hoses..

[jaespray]

hi rob  i raised the long hose issue when i sat my SPA course and was told
bluntly dont split hairs       buncefield had not happend then
at the (moment) the canopys are not the issue (untill they are air tight and fitted vac recovery)
new regs are round a (long) corner
the issue is with the storage tanks breather pipes (untill they fit a air tight recovery system)
new regs are round another (longer) corner
if you think fuel is dear now  if they had thierway i dread to think of the cost
regards john

[jaespray]

if any one needs insurance for fuel stations
contact OAMPS 01372467266
contacting them is the easy bit
regards john

[Blast Away]

Seen a company cleaning the block paving on a fuel station(think it was near Appleton off the M6) and they had a petrol honda sat on the forecourt sucking from a bin with the water source from the building. 

[Rob_Mac]

Jae

Do you have the insurance cover in place. Do you know roughly how much it costs.

Rob

[jaespray]

hi rob  i wont have fuel staition cover till mr BP contacts me
for fuel station cover they were talking telephone nos   they want to see your books
and they were talking a % of future work profits
regards john

[Rob_Mac]

Cheers for that.

Off tomorrow will do some investigating.

Many thanks

Rob

[Cliff Horne]

I have booked in a forecourt clean for Wed at my local garage, my intention was to keep PW offsite and use 70 mtr of hose, garage owner has not stipulated any insurance issues, but I will speak to him about it, the canopy clean is regarding future works for a chain of garages (Texaco) as they are not happy with there existing cleaner, I am expecting a call from their area manager, will bring up these issues then when I know a little more about what works they want me to quote for.

Rob, would still like that RA if thats OK.

Thanks Guys
Regards
Cliff

[Rob_Mac]

Cliff

On my last legs tonight and on the other laptop. Will send a RA & method statement tomorrow.

As far as insurance is concerned it is your responsibility to make sure that you have it all in order!!

Cheers

Rob

[Robert Parry]

Hi,

If you take a look at your current policy within the small print it will exclude forecourts, airports, offshore working etc.

The cover can be obtained at a steep price, and all equipment etc has to meet certain regs etc. The fact that you use a long hose etc, will not be enough!

The odds of anything going wrong maybe be small if you know what your doing, however if things did go T**S up, you would be up the creek without a paddle!

Regards,

Rob