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SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« on: June 11, 2011, 05:29:59 pm »
I have stripped apart the sections of my 30 ft slx to clean it of grit etc because it was sticking a bit, and as mentioned in another thread, it turned out the end stop tape was chewed up..knackered.

So I have attempted to replace end stop tape but when i prise the clamp jaws open to reinsert pole section, the tape keeps getting chewed up its a nightmare! Its not easy doing this job on your own. Im thinking of marking the pole somehow, paint or nail varnish but i dont know whats safe to use so as not to break down the carbon fibre? Im forgetting the tape for now as at the minute I feel like breaking the pole across my knee!  >:( although i couldnt do it  ;D
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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2011, 05:38:45 pm »
Personally I don't use possitive end stops. My poles are marked so I don't over-extend. After the first day with my Xtreme 48 I stripped it & removed them.

I'm not recommending anyone else do this but it is my preference.

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 05:42:06 pm »
how did you mark them winpro?
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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 05:45:41 pm »
how did you mark them winpro?

The Xtreme is marked anyway (which won't wear off due to design)

My slx still has very faint red marks on all bar one section. This section I have used tippex & wax crayon. ;D

alanwilson

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 05:49:53 pm »
try some red permanent marker - it fades but works fine.

don't forget to spray the sections once a week - ptfe dry film spray

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/0693321.html
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alanwilson

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2011, 05:51:41 pm »
edit - don't buy from the link above, too expensive.

try googling it, we got from someone else (can't remember who) for £5 a tin, one tin should last about 50 sections
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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2011, 05:53:30 pm »
thanks chaps any other ideas? i would like to use something quite bold really, i dont want to be snapping sections.  :-\
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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2011, 05:55:25 pm »
edit - don't buy from the link above, too expensive.

try googling it, we got from someone else (can't remember who) for £5 a tin, one tin should last about 50 sections

Thanks Alan I have been using cheap furniture polish...50p a can  ;D
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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 06:06:47 pm »
I'm sure the furniture polish dos the job but ptfe dry film is a lubricant so it helps the sections slide much better, clamps still work fine and because it stops grit from sticking to the pole it reduces wear.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Alex Gardiner

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2011, 09:15:19 pm »
I have stripped apart the sections of my 30 ft slx to clean it of grit etc because it was sticking a bit, and as mentioned in another thread, it turned out the end stop tape was chewed up..knackered.

So I have attempted to replace end stop tape but when i prise the clamp jaws open to reinsert pole section, the tape keeps getting chewed up its a nightmare! Its not easy doing this job on your own. Im thinking of marking the pole somehow, paint or nail varnish but i dont know whats safe to use so as not to break down the carbon fibre? Im forgetting the tape for now as at the minute I feel like breaking the pole across my knee!  >:( although i couldnt do it  ;D

Generally a pole with joint stops will be far quicker and easier to use than a pole with joint markers. The clue to getting the joint stop tape in is not to put too much of it on the section. Best to use either a good quality insulating tape or ring us and ask for a little of the Fibre-Glass tape.

If using insulating tape then put just a single wrap of tape with just a few mm of overlap. When re-assembling the section prise apart the clamp jaws with something (I use an allen key, insert the short arm between the jaws and use the longer part to lever, really is the best thing to use) and slide the section in. When you get to the tape make sure the overlap area is at the front where the jaws are widest apart, you then need to gently twist the section so that the tape twists down into the section past the clamp. If it really will not go in then take the tape off and put just a single wrap around with no overlap. Make sure that the tape is well stuck down and try again. This should sort it for you. If using the fibre-glass tape which is slightly thicker then do no overlap the tape at all.

If you do want to paint an overlap marker instead, then you can buy an all purpose type spray paint from B&Q which can be sprayed on metal and plastic. Using masking tape mask off the pole leaving just the base 15cm exposed and spray a thin layer of paint over the whole of the bottom section. Spray lightly so that the paint does not build up at all. Leave the paint to dry overnight before use. This paint will probably have to be reapplied every month or so.

traps7

Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2011, 09:56:51 pm »
This was discussed some time ago: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=83838.0 Look on the second page of the topic.

Alex, can you list that tape on your website, the stuff that's on the pole when new? Or do I have to phone for it?

I wish I hadn't scraped the rest of my tape off. It's a right pain dismantling the pole every month or so to paint sections.

Nathanael Jones

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2011, 10:08:18 pm »
Its dead easy to replace the stop tape when you get the hang of it. I use branded (3M) insulation tape, make sure the surface is properly clean & dry, one single turn of tape with a tiny overlap (The start and finish of the tape should be cut not torn & the tape should not be stretched) and then I loosen completely & prise the clamp open with a large flat screwdriver when re-inserting the section. Takes 60 seconds max once you know how its done.  ;D ;D

Alex Gardiner

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2011, 10:09:44 pm »
This was discussed some time ago: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=83838.0 Look on the second page of the topic.

Alex, can you list that tape on your website, the stuff that's on the pole when new? Or do I have to phone for it?

I wish I hadn't scraped the rest of my tape off. It's a right pain dismantling the pole every month or so to paint sections.

When this issue was discussed on the thread you have linked to we were using a very different system of markers which were slightly thicker than paint hence the occasional jamming.

We do not list the tape, but I think perhaps that we should as it is a fairly standard maintenance item. I will put it on the website immediately  :)

When using the fibre glass tape there is no need to overlap it onto itself in use (unless the pole is old and worn and then it is actually of benefit to have it slightly thicker as it will help rigidify an older pole). It is important before replacing the tape on any section to properly clean and fully dry the section otherwise the tape will not stick. Once this fibre-glass tape has stuck on it stays on very well and resists wear very well.

As Nat has just said insulating tape works well and should be slightly overlapped if possible.

traps7

Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2011, 10:23:52 pm »
Thanks Alex I'll order some of that then.

I have tried a single wrap of ordinary insulation tape before though and found it too thick. It just got chewed up straight away.

My 25' SLX is well worn now though. I cut 4 inches off section no.2 because it split after I overshot the markers and it's also become quite tapered. Section no.1 is at just about maximum adjustment. Think it could soon be time for a replacement section or two. I'm just trying to get every last bit of life out of them before I order new ones.

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2011, 10:25:20 pm »
This was discussed some time ago: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=83838.0 Look on the second page of the topic.

Alex, can you list that tape on your website, the stuff that's on the pole when new? Or do I have to phone for it?

I wish I hadn't scraped the rest of my tape off. It's a right pain dismantling the pole every month or so to paint sections.

When this issue was discussed on the thread you have linked to we were using a very different system of markers which were slightly thicker than paint hence the occasional jamming.

We do not list the tape, but I think perhaps that we should as it is a fairly standard maintenance item. I will put it on the website immediately  :)

When using the fibre glass tape there is no need to overlap it onto itself in use (unless the pole is old and worn and then it is actually of benefit to have it slightly thicker as it will help rigidify an older pole). It is important before replacing the tape on any section to properly clean and fully dry the section otherwise the tape will not stick. Once this fibre-glass tape has stuck on it stays on very well and resists wear very well.

As Nat has just said insulating tape works well and should be slightly overlapped if possible.

Thanks for your help. when you say immediately shall i give you 10 minutes?  :P oh and where will you list it please? its sometimes a bit of a mission to find the obscure nik nak items. thanks again. And thank you Trapps.
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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2011, 10:27:56 pm »
Thanks Alex I'll order some of that then.

I have tried a single wrap of ordinary insulation tape before though and found it too thick. It just got chewed up straight away.

My 25' SLX is well worn now though. I cut 4 inches off section no.2 because it split after I overshot the markers and it's also become quite tapered. Section no.1 is at just about maximum adjustment. Think it could soon be time for a replacement section or two. I'm just trying to get every last bit of life out of them before I order new ones.

Sounds like mine ;D ;D

I've just about squeezed every last drop out of my MKI SLX 25. Been used daily for four years & has had some abuse too.
I've just reserved a new one from the July batch.

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2011, 10:33:15 pm »
Thanks Alex I'll order some of that then.

I have tried a single wrap of ordinary insulation tape before though and found it too thick. It just got chewed up straight away.

My 25' SLX is well worn now though. I cut 4 inches off section no.2 because it split after I overshot the markers and it's also become quite tapered. Section no.1 is at just about maximum adjustment. Think it could soon be time for a replacement section or two. I'm just trying to get every last bit of life out of them before I order new ones.

Sounds like mine ;D ;D



I've just about squeezed every last drop out of my MKI SLX 25. Been used daily for four years & has had some abuse too.
I've just reserved a new one from the July batch.

you will be getting a loyalty card soon  ;D
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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2011, 10:36:09 pm »
Thanks Alex I'll order some of that then.

I have tried a single wrap of ordinary insulation tape before though and found it too thick. It just got chewed up straight away.

My 25' SLX is well worn now though. I cut 4 inches off section no.2 because it split after I overshot the markers and it's also become quite tapered. Section no.1 is at just about maximum adjustment. Think it could soon be time for a replacement section or two. I'm just trying to get every last bit of life out of them before I order new ones.

Sounds like mine ;D ;D

you will be getting a loyalty card soon  ;D
I've just about squeezed every last drop out of my MKI SLX 25. Been used daily for four years & has had some abuse too.
I've just reserved a new one from the July batch.

Looking at the cost & what that pole has done for me, I should be tipping them!! ;D

Alex Gardiner

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2011, 10:40:34 pm »
This was discussed some time ago: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=83838.0 Look on the second page of the topic.

Alex, can you list that tape on your website, the stuff that's on the pole when new? Or do I have to phone for it?

I wish I hadn't scraped the rest of my tape off. It's a right pain dismantling the pole every month or so to paint sections.

When this issue was discussed on the thread you have linked to we were using a very different system of markers which were slightly thicker than paint hence the occasional jamming.

We do not list the tape, but I think perhaps that we should as it is a fairly standard maintenance item. I will put it on the website immediately  :)

When using the fibre glass tape there is no need to overlap it onto itself in use (unless the pole is old and worn and then it is actually of benefit to have it slightly thicker as it will help rigidify an older pole). It is important before replacing the tape on any section to properly clean and fully dry the section otherwise the tape will not stick. Once this fibre-glass tape has stuck on it stays on very well and resists wear very well.

As Nat has just said insulating tape works well and should be slightly overlapped if possible.

Thanks for your help. when you say immediately shall i give you 10 minutes?  :P oh and where will you list it please? its sometimes a bit of a mission to find the obscure nik nak items. thanks again. And thank you Trapps.

It is now listed for you - I am not allowed on this forum to post links to our website (which is fine 'cause we don't pay for the privilege) so I will have to do the following:

Go to 'Water Fed Poles', then 'Pole spares', then 'CLX, SLX, SMAX Pole Spares', then 'Lever Sets, Bolts & Tape', then you will find it as the 4th product listed.  :)

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Re: SLX MAINTENENCE HELP
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2011, 10:43:07 pm »
thanks
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