[GB Window Cleaning]

okay so your probably sick of hearing me now 

but i think of nothing else all day 

so i'd really like to get to the bottom of this and get some opinions

so following on from the custy who complained about spotting at the bottom of the glass i have gone back to the drawing board with my method and here's how i used to do it, and heres how i do it now...

old method.

1) brush frames, no rinsing

2) brush glass once

3) quick rinse from top to about middle of glass with very low water flow

4) brush sills over twice


New method.

1) brush frames once, rinse alittle IF i can still see dirty water on frames (especially above glass where it could drip onto the glass)

2) brush glass TWICE, giving extra scrubbing attention to the top & bottom. because the bottom of the glass seems to be the area prone to spotting & the top is where most of the dirt collects!

3) rinsing. i now have my trolley pump on a higher setting and rinse from the top of the glass ALL the way down to the very bottom of the glass, also giving extra rinsing to the bottom of the glass where spotting seems to happen most!

4) finally same thing with sills, scrub over them twice



so... whats everyone elses method? i'd love hear, even better still would be a video of a good w.f.p method 

all opinions welcome

regards

GB

[martinw]

there you go, watch all his videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjw0jlgGzFQ

[Pope vader]

rinse on,  brush top frame and soak with water,  then up and down the whole window inc frames avoiding top frame and then rinse off and wash sill,  do a really good clean on first few cleans and should be easy after thant

[GB Window Cleaning]

there you go, watch all his videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjw0jlgGzFQ

yea, good videos, ive seen them before, but thanks anyway 

[GB Window Cleaning]

rinse on,  brush top frame and soak with water,  then up and down the whole window inc frames avoiding top frame and then rinse off and wash sill,  do a really good clean on first few cleans and should be easy after thant

so how many tines do you brush the glass? and do you rinse all the way down to the bottom of the glass, thanks for your time!

[Pope vader]

to be honest i spend less than a minute on each glass some times less than 30 secs i use a extreme brush with fan jets,  i give them a really good clean to start with and after that it is easy as you are only removing the dirty that is a few weeks old

practise on your woindow till you get a tech you are happy

[GB Window Cleaning]

thanks chicken man.

what do others think to my method comparing it with your own?

[richard jagger]

You seam obsessed with saving water.Be very careful this might be your down fall as water floats dirt of the glass. GIVE YOUR RESULTS RITE BEFORE YOU CUT BACK ON WATER FLOW.
Clean the glass by feeling id the glass is clean by the way the brush moves over the glass. CHECK BY LOOKING AT THE GLASS. this SORT OF FORMULA OF 2 X SIDES AND 3 TIME OVER THE TOP IS NOT WHAT ITS ABOUT.that will all depend on the glass age. type of frames etc.. YOU NEED TO JUST LEARN BY EXPERIENCE.
sorry ABOUT THE CAPS AND LOWER CASE.

[GB Window Cleaning]

@ wizkid  really sorry mate but i didnt understand a word of that  can you repeat please? thanks very much

[Mike #1]

You seam obsessed with saving water.Be very careful this might be your down fall as water floats dirt of the glass. GIVE YOUR RESULTS RITE BEFORE YOU CUT BACK ON WATER FLOW.
Clean the glass by feeling id the glass is clean by the way the brush moves over the glass. CHECK BY LOOKING AT THE GLASS. this SORT OF FORMULA OF 2 X SIDES AND 3 TIME OVER THE TOP IS NOT WHAT ITS ABOUT.that will all depend on the glass age. type of frames etc.. YOU NEED TO JUST LEARN BY EXPERIENCE.
sorry ABOUT THE CAPS AND LOWER CASE.
 

[bumper]

ive seen videos on how to clean a window using wfp,but they dornt wash the top frames,i thought you had to wash the frames.
 bumper

[Panorama]

I agree bumper, there's quite a few on YouTube that miss the top frames. My technique is : scrub and rinse top frame , top seal and 2 brush stock widths of the first window, do this on all top windows of the side of the house you are working on. Go back to the first window, overlap part of the glass you've already scrubbed and rinsed , scrub  remainder of frame and glass all the way to the bottom seal, then rinse glass stopping 1 inch before the bottom seal, finish off by cleaning sill. I was having problems with spotting when I first started, my eureka moment came when I upped my flow rate from 1.5 litres per min to 2 litre per min. Never looked back, windows and frames look superb now.

[dazmond]

top frames dont always need doing.sometimes i do them every other time.on newer better priced 8 weekly work i do them every clean.on my cheap 4 weeklies every other usually!

my tips are


1.good flow rate

2.scrub a few times the whole area of glass then rinse brush off all the way down to the bottom of glass esp if they are dirty or  hydrophobic glass.

3.when rinsing aim the water just under the top frame.

its hardly rocket science!a monkey could do it!(in fact a few do!).

sounds like your over thinking into incredibly anally retentive areas!beware you dont turn into a window cleaning bore when in the presence of your girlfriend or she could be an ex before you know it!!


best wishes


dazmond

[GB Window Cleaning]

thanks for your replys people.

@ dazmond, my misses already thinks im anally retentive  do you scrub the glass once or twice daz?

i suppose the trouble is i only w.f.p above ground floor, so i never really see the results close up. from the ground theyve always looks perfect! but since that custy complained and i went inside to take a close inspection i was shocked at how i couldnt even see these spots from the ground 

oh and another thing, how do you determine what is a good flow rate 

thanks.

[John Walker]

oh and another thing, how do you determine what is a good flow rate 

thanks.

I usually watch for a good flow of water down the window during the rinse.  It's when the water is jetting to around 12" from the jets before curving downwards on my system.  Gardiners brushes with standard pencil jets.

I chase the water down so that it takes small particles with it.  Seems slower during the cold months - even had it stop flowing when it was minus 6 degrees!!! 

[Steve Sed]

My take on it is that spots are lack of proper rinsing and streaks are dirty water dripping off of poorly cleaned frames. Assuming spots aren't "dirt" through lack of good scrubbing.

[GB Window Cleaning]

My take on it is that spots are lack of proper rinsing and streaks are dirty water dripping off of poorly cleaned frames. Assuming spots aren't "dirt" through lack of good scrubbing.

thats what i think too steve!

[Count Phil]

To determine the flow rate, get a jug or bottle that you know the size of. For example, a 2 litre coke bottle. Put the hose in and turn it on. Time how long it takes to fill.

If it takes a minute to fill the coke bottle, you are using 2 litres a minute. Simples.

Check the position on your varistream or flow controller and keep it where you need it. 1.5 - 2 litres a minute is a must when you start. And to be honest, makes the job quicker the faster the rate.

[GB Window Cleaning]

To determine the flow rate, get a jug or bottle that you know the size of. For example, a 2 litre coke bottle. Put the hose in and turn it on. Time how long it takes to fill.

If it takes a minute to fill the coke bottle, you are using 2 litres a minute. Simples.

Check the position on your varistream or flow controller and keep it where you need it. 1.5 - 2 litres a minute is a must when you start. And to be honest, makes the job quicker the faster the rate.

thanks for that. i'll do that, and let you know what flow rate im using shortly!

[GB Window Cleaning]

okay so ive just measured my trolleys flow rate...

i get 1.3 (ish) ltrs per min on the lowest setting

and bang on 2 ltrs on setting number two (this is the setting i now use)

this was with a 8mm thick 5 meter length hose straight from the trolley into a jug, not throught my pole out the jets if that makes any difference!

is this ok?

oh and the water jets out both brush jets to around 4ft away from the brush. just for some extra info!