[wpclean]

How much more in percentage terms do you consider wfp rounds for sale as compared to trad rounds ?

Personally I would expect to pay 30% more for a wfp round but that is only my opinion

What do you think ?

[G Griffin]

Too vague a question.
30% of nothing, is nothing. 30% of a million is a lot. It also depends on the value of the trad round. But how do you value a round, be it trad or wfp?
There are loads of things to take into consideration.

[Lee GLS]

i dont think there would be much difference, it would come down to how well priced the work is and locality that would have an effect on the price of the round.

[mikecam]

How much more in percentage terms do you consider wfp rounds for sale as compared to trad rounds ?

Personally I would expect to pay 30% more for a wfp round but that is only my opinion

What do you think ?

Hard to say. WFP tends to be monthly and trad seems to be fortnightly, Trads tend to only charge a couple of quid and do half a job and WFP rounds don't in general tend to be very well established.
 Its best allways to do your home work and work the round with whoever is selling it in order to establish its true value and not rely on what the vendor says no matter what method is used to clean it !!!

[cozy]

How much more in percentage terms do you consider wfp rounds for sale as compared to trad rounds ?

Personally I would expect to pay 30% more for a wfp round but that is only my opinion
What do you think ?

That's the strangest thing I've seen on here for days!! Why would custies be higher value because of how they were cleaned? What are the custies worth if the guy selling is WFP and the buyer is Trad??

What made you ask this question? How does method effect price? Do WFP guys (Because they are faster) charge less or more? I'm off to clean some windows, this will give me something to think about now!! 

[Paul Coleman]

I suppose that a WFP round would be worth more simply because you can get through more work in a month.  This is because many rounds tend to be sold on turnover rather than profit.  The profit in a month would be higher anyway in spite of the higher running costs.

[Small but perfectley formed]

Also if the round is trad you would have to convert to wfp if employees where to work it.

[geoffreyspecht]

I suppose that a WFP round would be worth more simply because you can get through more work in a month.  This is because many rounds tend to be sold on turnover rather than profit.  The profit in a month would be higher anyway in spite of the higher running costs.

a goo trad window cleaner can the same amount of work as wfp window cleaner on domestic work

[geoffreyspecht]

I suppose that a WFP round would be worth more simply because you can get through more work in a month.  This is because many rounds tend to be sold on turnover rather than profit.  The profit in a month would be higher anyway in spite of the higher running costs.

[A@R WINDOWCLEANING]

i dont want to start a row here but there is no way trad is just as quick as wfp     must be very slow at it (wfp)that is

[Paul Coleman]

I suppose that a WFP round would be worth more simply because you can get through more work in a month.  This is because many rounds tend to be sold on turnover rather than profit.  The profit in a month would be higher anyway in spite of the higher running costs.

a goo trad window cleaner can the same amount of work as wfp window cleaner on domestic work

I guess I must have been a lousy trad window cleaner then  .

I would agree that I found certain jobs (usually small ones with difficult hose access) did not give much of a time saving.  For the most part though, I found WFP substantially faster - and still do.  This could be about the type of work I have these days.  There's no way I'm the fastest thing on two legs though and on smaller compact work a younger, fitter man than I may indeed be able to trad quickly.  For a big guy though, I was never a slouch even with ladders.
Once I got used to WFP and had done my round three or four times with it and adjusted my round to accommodate it, I reckon that I knocked at least one third off the time to get around.

[geoffreyspecht]

i dont want to start a row here but there is no way trad is just as quick as wfp     must be very slow at it (wfp)that is

depends how good u r 

[sf]

i dont want to start a row here but there is no way trad is just as quick as wfp     must be very slow at it (wfp)that is

A good trad window cleaner is quicker than wfp on most domestic.I can match any wfp windy, window for window all day even on commercial up to 3 storeys.Same as everthing in life,its all down to experience.Good trad window cleaners are very few and far between these days.

[geoffreyspecht]

i dont want to start a row here but there is no way trad is just as quick as wfp     must be very slow at it (wfp)that is

A good trad window cleaner is quicker than wfp on most domestic.I can match any wfp windy, window for window all day even on commercial up to 3 storeys.Same as everthing in life,its all down to experience.Good trad window cleaners are very few and far between these days.

i think u will find on large commercial jobs wfp is faster than trad window cleaning methods

[wpclean]

I used to be trad for a fair few number of years and always refused to entertain wfp . . .  but since moving to wfp it has given me a new zeal to working and expanding the business.

This is why  look with interest at the rounds for sale, and always would consider paying more due to the safer, quicker and more earning potential.  

[EWCServices]

well i forked out over £700 for a wfp trolley and top of the range pole and i find the trad method on my work just as fast as lugging a trolley about getting hose tangled although it does have its advantages on dodgy access windows,i was hoping the pole was faster as im not as young as i used to be but timewise/moneywise i just had to go back to ladders after a cpl of days trying. :-(
im guessing its horses for courses there will be work thats way quicker with wfp and work thats just as quick doing with ladders.

[sf]

Iv proved time after time trad is quicker on domestic.Also proved trad is equally as quick on commercial.4 storeys and above is when wfp comes in to its own.Next year will be going wfp myself on 3 storey.wfp is easier and safer.

[elite mike]

Iv proved time after time trad is quicker on domestic.Also proved trad is equally as quick on commercial.4 storeys and above is when wfp comes in to its own.Next year will be going wfp myself on 3 storey.wfp is easier and safer.

hi sf

i have been window cleaning for myself since 1982 mostly trad,then went wfp about 3 years ago.

 I still cannot believe how quick and better it is compared to trad , and i am no slouch when i comes to trad.

i found that on my monthly round which used to take me 6 to 7 weeks to get round trad.

i  was all of a sudden doing it 4 to five weeks wfp and increased my earnings substantially

good luck when you switch over ,you will not regret it.

mike

[Paul Coleman]

well i forked out over £700 for a wfp trolley and top of the range pole and i find the trad method on my work just as fast as lugging a trolley about getting hose tangled although it does have its advantages on dodgy access windows,i was hoping the pole was faster as im not as young as i used to be but timewise/moneywise i just had to go back to ladders after a cpl of days trying. :-(
im guessing its horses for courses there will be work thats way quicker with wfp and work thats just as quick doing with ladders.

But you need to remember your speed when you first started trad.  It takes a while to develop working methods that speed you up.  It also takes a while to adapt which work you have to the new tools.
I think that a trolley is not the easiest or quickest way to WFP.
Van mount with occasional basckpack is the way I've gone - a backpack with a carry handle as I wouldn't wear one on my back.

[Paul Coleman]

Iv proved time after time trad is quicker on domestic.Also proved trad is equally as quick on commercial.4 storeys and above is when wfp comes in to its own.Next year will be going wfp myself on 3 storey.wfp is easier and safer.

hi sf

i have been window cleaning for myself since 1982 mostly trad,then went wfp about 3 years ago.

 I still cannot believe how quick and better it is compared to trad , and i am no slouch when i comes to trad.

i found that on my monthly round which used to take me 6 to 7 weeks to get round trad.

i  was all of a sudden doing it 4 to five weeks wfp and increased my earnings substantially

good luck when you switch over ,you will not regret it.

mike

A six weekly cycle with ladder became a four weeks work wit WFP.  I even got around in three and a half weeks once but I did rush quite a bit to complete before a holiday.