[tabitha]

Hi everyone, when taking on new staff do you require a crb check from employees if so who pays for it? I only have one employee and she already has one. If i did pay for it what would happen if the employee decided to leave after a week or so ?? I know some cleaning companies don't bother but i feel it's important as they will be in customers houses

[BDCS]

You want it so you pay for it - Why have one unless there is direct contact with kids ? Mine just cost me £46 through our bouncy castle governing body

[Adam P]

it's a good selling point imo. if she already has one then i assume it's not from you getting one done on her? if i understand the rules correctly you need one for each company she works for, so the one she currently has isn't useable. If some thing was to go wrong the customer will say you do CRB checks and you'll need to prove it and if i've understood it right atm you haven't done it.

also from what i understand once you've got it you need to record the ref number and you need to destroy it.

if you're worried about spending the money and then them leaving my advice would be to say to customers that you CRB un-supervised staff and then you have someone who is CRB checked work with them for the trial period and then once they're ready to go it alone do the CRB check.

[Pristine Clean]

She does not want it for her. She wants it for her New staff.

No you don't need to destroy it.

They are a good selling point, they are not required by law unless working for schools or kids. The client can request them to be done. But it is not law.

As for them leaving early or in a week have a clause in the contract where if they leave in a certain time frame YOU will deduct the monies from there pay and have them sign a separate clause.

regards

Dave

[Adam P]

"She does not want it for her. She wants it for her New staff."

yeah that's what i took it as and she was saying that the staff has a crb from someone else but my understanding is that this can't be used, she'll need to do one for each member of staff every 3 years even if another company is does a CRB check as well

[Gilbert Sprous]

If the employee already has one then you know that it should come back clean (usually) but to my understanding you will have to run one yourself.  I use the reference number as proof that they have a CRB as I can not show the actual report to my clients.  CRBs come in several forms, standard, and enhanced.  You can also get a basic check for folks that do not have to work with children or vulnerable adults.  Check with Disclosure Scotland, it will cost about 25 pounds.

Cheers Gilbert

[Rick Ward]

easter bunny is right they must be destroyed...certainly within three months and prior to that they have to be securely locked away. check with the CRB helpline they will help and clarify matters. These sites are great for cleaning advice but never completely trust opinions on matters of legality- not even mine but I am married to a chartered HR consultant. You can have it in the contract (term and condition) that they repay it if they don't stay the first three months but after that it's non -recoupable ....apparently that isn't a word but it should be!!

[Pristine Clean]

easter bunny is right they must be destroyed...certainly within three months and prior to that they have to be securely locked away. check with the CRB helpline they will help and clarify matters. These sites are great for cleaning advice but never completely trust opinions on matters of legality- not even mine but I am married to a chartered HR consultant. You can have it in the contract (term and condition) that they repay it if they don't stay the first three months but after that it's non -recoupable ....apparently that isn't a word but it should be!!

Hi,

When I meant you don't need to destroy it, I meant the applicant will have a copy as well. They do not need to destroy it. (I can see I worded that incorrectly on my previous post sorry)

In fact, if they move position to a new company they can legally show them the certificate. It is down to the new company weather they except that certificate. Its called portability.

The documents need to be kept in a secure non moveable lockable cabinet. And can be kept by an employer for up to 6 months actually and if you write to the CRB you can request that you want to keep it longer.

And in actual fact, they were only for people working in health and childcare, career vulnerable adults and is not actually required by law by any other environment.

Gilbert is right in the fact that you cannot show the certificate to anyone due to data protection act, however if the employee agrees that you can share the information to agreed parties then no offence has been committed.

Dave