[windows_chepstow]

I've no problems with donating money.  I even sent Matt a tenner (which he wasted on pizza) to help with the upkeep of his WFP DIY Site; which I think is an excellent site to help fellow window cleaners.

I could see a real and tangible benifit to having his site around.

But since I mainly use ladders; If I donate; will I be mainly funding the expenses of an organisation whose primary aim is to secure cheaper insurance for WFP users?

Has PWCA drawn up a list of aims for the organisation yet?

Where does the PWCA stand on the use of ladders?  (No pun intended)

[Moderator David@stives]

Tosh
the pwca is there to represent ALL window cleaners, The consensus was that there will always be a role for ladders and ladder users

Dave

[thewindowcleaner1]

As soon as details are available I'll help with donations,
 as my cash flow at present is Tight it'll have to be small donations over several weeks..

I started to bang my gums last night after reading the Thread  of "davidsabishop" who seems to be starting something totally different and I misread it as info comming from the meeting (silly me)

Although I use WFP I still use ladders and believe that most new windowcleaners willstart in this trade useing ladders and as such need help encouragement and a family of like minded people to call on when needed.

Alan

[windows_chepstow]

David,

I think you're a canny lad (that's Geordie for a 'good bloke'), but I still can't get over Davidsabishop (with regards to PWCA) saying:

It will be primarily for window cleaners who do not use ladders at all

I doubt he lied or made it up out of fresh air.  So he had that information from 'somewhere'!

I also would like to see what the aims of the association are.

I'll reserve my own personal judgement till then, but in the meantime; good luck and I hope we all end up with a dynamic trade association we can all TRUST and be proud of.

[thewindowcleaner1]

Tosh if you read the thread by "davidsabishop" and the latest posting it seems that he is starting a assosiation up of his own not related tro the meeting..

You seem to have read it the same way as i did last night...


Alan

[thewindowcleaner1]

he's calling his

National Association of Window Cleaners

[Moderator David@stives]

Tosh

Davidabishop is starting up his own one man band and did not even attend the meeting yesterday , he confused a lot of people
the views he stated had no bearing whatsoever on the points raised at the meeting.

Trust me Tosh it is going to be good especially with me watching every move and keeping them all honest.

i was there and have got 100% faith in those who attended.

[24-7 S C Services]

Hi Tosh

Why don't you get involved in this new association? It is all very well people sitting back and on the fence so to say. But the new association will benefit from peoples opinions, recommendations, and ideas. Surely this is the best way to move it forward and make it the best it can possibly be?

If you don't want to get involved, perhaps you will attend the up and coming meetings?

Andrew

[windows_chepstow]

Tosh if you read the thread by "davidsabishop" and the latest posting it seems that he is starting a assosiation up of his own not related tro the meeting..

You seem to have read it the same way as i did last night...


Alan

Crikey.  The Life of Brian springs to mind.  Those who've seen the film will know what I'm talking about.  

I may start one too called the 'National Organisation of Proffessionally Organised and Organic Window Cleaners'  (NO POO WC).

I think I've some apologies to make, but not sure who too.

I'll shall start with Robert McClean.  Sorry, mate.  I'm a Geordie.  I'm sure you understand.  

Good luck, lads, and good on you for 'getting stuck in'.  

Andrew, thanks for the encoragement to get involved, I may send you my CV, but I'm not sure what I could offer the PWCA.

[rosskesava]

Tosh if you read the thread by "davidsabishop" and the latest posting it seems that he is starting a assosiation up of his own not related tro the meeting..

You seem to have read it the same way as i did last night...

I am guillty of that and worse than Tosh.

I'm too embarrised to say sorry so I'll hide away for a bit but... Sorry.

[jsm]

Any news on what the new fed is going to do for us ? - what will we be paying money into for what ??

wasn't at meeting so any info . Any one got any tales to tell

Will the public know of the new fed as most of the people that read the forums do domestic stuff .

[jsm]

thanks for the reports guys , was wondering what went on .

I'll just hold back from sticking my new NFMWGC stickers on the van just yet ( as posted in a past post ) and see how the new Fed takes shape .
good luck

[Londoner]

I don't want to put myself forward for anything but I wish you well. Getting organised as a trade, no sorry, as a PROFESSION, is what we need and if its done properly by good people great things can come out of it.

[jsm]

Hi matt,

Basicaly what do you think you can offer. Send me an email, with a CV if you can. What you did prior to window cleaning could be very useful.

Andrew

Matt can be the new Fed's  ' wfp trolly build your own teacher '   sure done a good job so far - most of us would be still on the ladder dreaming of a 1000ltr van mount  

[Sarah Sarill]

Thanks for the update David,

Personally I am thankful to both you and Andrew for attending this meeting and for representing the 'ground floor' window cleaners on this site. 

As I stated on a previous thread - I am happy to support and join a new Ass that does not forget us small w/c who use wfp AND ladders when necessary and have something to give in return for our fee (whether its practical advice, or simply savings on expenses).

Am even more excited by the fact there were women present cos sometimes we too are a lost society in this industry dominated by men.

I look forward to hearing more from you both, my donation and joining fee is here, pending the issue of more concrete policies to help our industry move forward.

[24-7 S C Services]

Hi Sarill & Sarah

Thanks for your comments and support.

Even better news, not only did we have women attending, we also have a woman on the steering committee who is standing on the Residential Committee (for us small businesses/ 1 man bands so to say). I am sure she will introduce her self very shortly.


Andrew

[24-7 S C Services]

HI JSM

Nothing has been decided with reference to fee's and what you will get out of it.

Although the meeting did last all day, it was important to cover the basics first, which obviously resulted in the new Association being formed.

I am sure at future meetings, the important topics like you have mentioned will be raised, after all, this is what we want to hear.

I can say, the public will know about this Association, because it was highlighted by all concerned that the association is for all window cleaners and both the public and commercial clients will be made aware of the Association. How this will happen as yet i don't know, but in time, as the Association forms itself, important items like this will be placed on the agenda.

Now it is important for all window cleaners to voice their opinions and there will be no better place than the next meeting, which again, is an open meeting.

Andrew

[Andrew McCann]

Hi Andrew

I couldn't make the first meeting but would really like to be involved in some way in what my gut feeling tells me will be a very effective organisation that will be totally inclusive and representative of all sizes of operations no matter what methods they use to get the job done.

To add to my workload I became a grandad yesterday morning  so my time is pretty limited right now however I will be contacting you soon as you have requested. WOW its a long time since I had to do a CV LOL 

Andrew

[Paul Coleman]

Tosh if you read the thread by "davidsabishop" and the latest posting it seems that he is starting a assosiation up of his own not related tro the meeting..

You seem to have read it the same way as i did last night...


Alan

Crikey.  The Life of Brian springs to mind.  Those who've seen the film will know what I'm talking about.  

I may start one too called the 'National Organisation of Proffessionally Organised and Organic Window Cleaners'  (NO POO WC).

I think I've some apologies to make, but not sure who too.

I'll shall start with Robert McClean.  Sorry, mate.  I'm a Geordie.  I'm sure you understand.  

Good luck, lads, and good on you for 'getting stuck in'.  

Andrew, thanks for the encoragement to get involved, I may send you my CV, but I'm not sure what I could offer the PWCA.

Do you mean the bit about the "Judean Peoples' Front" and the "Peoples' Front of Judea"  ?

[Old_Master]

Here are the names of the people who will be on the steering commitee until the Association is fully operational
 
 
Chairman - Vacant (but awaiting consideration from the person asked)
 
Treasurer - Vacant
 
Secretary - Vacant
 
Press Officer -Robert Mclean
 
Residential Window Cleaning Sub commitee- Julie Phillips
 
Commercial Window Cleaning Sub commitee- Andy Cheney
 
Specialist High Rise Window Cleaning Sub commitee- Vacant
 
Health & Safety Sub commitee- Frazer Venters
 
Training Sub commitee- Vacant
 
Quality Auditor- Vacant
 
Marketing -Craig Mawlem
 
Membership sub commitee- Andrew Mullen and Russell Banks
 
Event Management sub commitee - Vacant
 
Fundraising sub commitee -Glyn Howard
 
Robert I appoligise in advance if you had a release planned.
 
All the persons named were chosen and voted on
 
I would like to state that both Craig Mawlem and myself elected not to hold any position in the commitees at all due to the controversy of us being wfp manufacturers but were talked into being on the sub commitees by everybody present.
 
 
Glyn