[Rob_Mac]

With a proposed launch date of January 2006 the Professional Window Cleaning Association (PWCA) has been formed.

After a long meeting hosted at the British Window Cleaning Academy in Chippenham, the Professional Window Cleaning Association prepares for the launch.

There will be further statements and announcements about future meetings as the launch date draws near.

There will be no inclusion from any of the interim committee on any debate created around this statement.

Robert McLean
PWCA Publicity Officer

[windows_chepstow]

There will be no inclusion from any of the interim committee on any debate created around this statement.

Sorry, I don't understand.

'Inclusion': noun.  The action of including or the state of being included.

So, what exactly are you saying?  Interim members cannot include anyone in your statement?  That doesn't make sense, man.

Sort it out, Sir! 

It's good to be formal, but better to make sense!

[matt]

who is on the "interim committee"

or is it a secret

can member see the membership list 


what about the accounts 

dont kick me out even B4 i join 

[thewindowcleaner1]

There will be no inclusion from any of the interim committee on any debate created around this statement.

Does that mean a meeting was held, some idea's were put into action and a new association was born?

But no one can talk about it, tell any one else what happend or answer any questions anyone may have?

Do we get to know the secret handshake or what?

[windows_chepstow]

Robert McLean
PWCA Publicity Officer

Reminds me when I was first promoted in the army.  I used to sign my letters home as:

Ken Simpkin
Lance Corporal
In Charge of Toilet cleaning NCO.

[thewindowcleaner1]

PWCA Publicity Officer

Not doing a very good job so far

[rosskesava]

I worked on the railway and at one point the term 'platorm' was to be re named 'departure location' and a 'seat' was to become a 'customer travel facility' and so it went on and on. There was also a 'customer enhancement utility' but I cannot remeber what basic thing it refered to.

There will be no inclusion from any of the interim committee on any debate created around this statement.

The above also sounds like the same type of mindless twaddle.

And it is from someone talking about a new trade association?

To perform the replenishment of original status of the in home visual aid the operator must first elevate themselves to the appropriate operating requirments and then act in such a manner as to comply with the resindents self assessed living operandi that is compliant to both the needs of the visual aid technician and the needs pertaining to the successfull living status of the resindent with regards their visual obervational needs...........

[Thecleanerservice]

Implement this without any further procrastination, then we'll meet with the board and arrange when to meet to discuss further Lunches Launches.

[Rob_Mac]

I will not be drawn into debate on the details of yesterdays meeting but I will clarify some points.

The Professional Window Cleaning Association meeting was open to anyone who turned up.

The next meeting will be open to anyone who turns up - but there will be no backtracking on the first meeting.

The PWCA will be available as a trade association for the window cleaning industry. It will not be specific and it is not solely for those with WFP systems.

The PWCA will be open and honest and will happily discuss everything about the start up and the interim committee and its' development at a later point.  There will be a right time to be open but now there is much to do for the better of our industry.

For the first time in the history of the industry there is a opportunity to choose who you would like to be your representative body.

Competition can only be good for everyone.

DavidsaBishop was not at yesterdays meeting and his original thread has no bearing on what went on.

People may feel that there are those with an interest in this venture but to give you some kind of idea of the mix of people who attended.

4 suppliers, Martin the gentleman who runs Windex, Carpex and other trade association shows, one man bands and multiple vehicle operators. A real mix of our industry - the common denominator for all was a desire to see change, promotion and an association we would all be proud to be part of.

Everyone who attended did at cost to themselves, my business earnt no money yesterday and there was a large petrol bill to foot, everyone else was the same.

Please be patient whilst this is developed, January is not very far away.

Robert McLean
PWCA Publicity Officer

[24-7 S C Services]

Hi Everyone,

As you all know, I attended the meeting yesterday (Friday) at the BWCA. The out come of this meeting you are all now aware off now and statements will be issued as information becomes available.

I am not going to comment any aspects of the meeting, however, I am pleased to inform you that I put myself forward and was elected by the people in this meeting to be Recruitment Officer for the PWCA.

As part of this task, I would formally like to invite applicants who would like to put there own names forward in joining one of the committees or helping with them.

This is your chance to make a difference.

Please note, this is a steering committee and in time a proper committee will be dually elected.

Please, if you are interested, forward me your CV and tell me what you have to offer, what your experience is and how you would like to contribute.


Many Thanks


Andrew
PWCA Recruitment Officer

[Sarah Sarill]

Andrew,

I for one am pleased to hear of your appointment.  I am confident (based on your postings here) that you will represent us small w/c businessess well.

I sincerely wish you and your team luck in the new Association and cant wait to hear how its structure and policies will help our business in the future.

Sarah

[matt]

Andrew

glad to hear your on the committee

i think most here are a little concearned this new "FED" will just be for the "boys" and leave the mere mortals and the Everyday 1 man band window cleaners behind

what are you looking for, as even though i wasnt at the meeting i wouldnt mind helping out, mainly so the suppliers and the "big comercail boys" dont forget the little man

[24-7 S C Services]

Hi everyone,

David and myself attended the meeting yesterday as you all know. I hope David will be joining me in here to help with questions.

We will try and answer your questions as best as we can, but only if we know the answers. We would have come on earlier and commented, but we have been in meetings and discussions (online) today with the other people at the meeting to iron a few things out. We want to answer your questions, but only if we have the full facts you see.

Andrew

[24-7 S C Services]

Hi matt,

Basicaly what do you think you can offer. Send me an email, with a CV if you can. What you did prior to window cleaning could be very useful.

Andrew

[Philip Hanson]

 I was at the meeting yesterday, and I can tell you that it was a very productive one.
 
As you have seen, it was decided (voted on) that a new association should be formed and that it be called "The Professional Window Cleaners Association" (or PWCA)
 
There were many people at this meeting, including a number of suppliers, but mostly window cleaners themselves.  And notably, it was not an all-male attendance, and that I was very pleased to see.  Women are entering the window cleaning industry at a fast rate these days, and I think its very important that the discussion was balanced.
 
This is, in my opinion, a very positive step for the window cleaning industry, and I for one will get behind this new initative 100%.
 
I know that many here wanted to attend the meeting but could not, my understanding (and I am not a spokesperson) is that there will be more opportunities to participate in the future.
 
Other than these things (which are, I have to say, pretty major in themselves!) not much else was decided upon.  I understand that more information will be released from this brand new organization in the near future.
 
I would suggest we all bear with them for the moment, as the meeting was only yesterday and I think things are still being finalised.
 
I am very excited about this new development, and I look forward to seeing what will happen in the next few weeks and months.  One point which I think is of great importance- it was firmly agreed that this new association would be for ALL window cleaners, no matter what methods they use, or the type of work they do.
 
I think this has been a long time in coming, and I am very pleased at what looks to be a very promising start.
 
-Philip

[24-7 S C Services]

Hi Philip

Thanks for your comments, it was exciting wasn't it and I am sure everyone will agree (including those who did not attend) this meeting was a success for our industry.

Andrew

[Moderator David@stives]

"I know everyone is aware that i went to the meeting on friday.
The outcome of the meeting of those who attended was for the formation of a completely new and exciting association.
There were over 20 people in attendance with a good mix of window cleaners ,wfp manufacturers and retailers .

There was a lot of enthusiasm ,and ideas ,with some very knowledgeable and experienced people,some with specialised skills ,such as health and safety etc.

There were certain big hitters who did not want to be part of it ,because they thought there involvement would hamper things,but after much deliberation they were duley talked around. Without the skills of some of those persuaded i dont think it would of worked out so well and in my opinion we need these people.

I can honestly say they were a bunch of genuine and passionate people and i was very impressed with everyones ideas of how to take this industry forward.

One of the reasons i attended was because i wanted to keep the numbers even,and did not want it to be a split industry, us window cleaners gave a good show of ourselves and contributed well and came up with good ideas.

There was nothing underhand or sinister going on,and if there were nothing would of stopped me coming on here and spilling the beans ,as it happens there was not one single thing i was unhappy about .

The association will need a lot of funds to get off the ground ,and will probably cost the commitee a lot of money for the next few years,as there will be no money whatsoever to cover expenses.

Everybody who attended did so at there own expense ,personally it cost me £70 in petrol and no wages,but i was still recovering from my op so that did not matter much to me anyway.The drive there and back was bad with all the rain it took me 3 hours going and 4 hours back .

well thats all for now unless i can think of anything else later

Dave"

[24-7 S C Services]

Hi Sarah,

Thank you for your words of encouragement.

Would you have anything to offer us? Would you like to participate in someway?

If so, drop me a line, enclose a CV if you can.

Many Thanks

Andrew

[Old_Master]

Hi everybody
There is going to be loads of work to do to get the new trade association up and running. 
 
The meeting was very well attended with some high profile people.
 
One of the largest cleaning contractors in the UK sent a representative!
 
My temporary position will be as a fundraiser with the aim to get enough money donated to fund the start up. This has nothing to do with subscription fees this is just the money we need to get started.
 
 Early in the meeting it was decided by all that no one company or individual would donate the lions share, from comments made I could have probably collected £10,000 in donations immediately, but all in attendance decided against this as it may have looked like a control thing. 
 
I with others need to try and work out how much we need to launch our new Association, once that has been achieved then I will be able to set the maximum donation permissible- that’s right we are going to have a maximum donation.
 
As soon as I get the opportunity to set up a Bank account, I will pester everybody that wants to join for a donation to get the Association off the ground.You do not have to donate to be able join!
 
To give you all an idea my initial thoughts are that we will need to raise about £20,000.00 this is a guesstimate at the moment, but I thought you all would want to know the sort of figure we are talking about. 
Glyn

[24-7 S C Services]

Hi Everyone

I can confirm what Glyn has stated here.

In addition, I can also confirm, I will be donating money as soon as the account has been set up.

Allot of people on this forum talked about and wanted a new association, now this is formed, please donate what you can, even if it is as little as £5, after all, this is going to be your association people.

Andrew