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neil100

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2005, 11:01:27 pm »
fibreglassing it sounds good, but depends on cost.

speedliner i guess costs 4 to £500.

cheapest protecta-kote, as long as it looks all right.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2005, 11:13:29 pm »
How does it compare with speedliner?

I'm going to keep the van till it dies,sohow long will the fibreglass floor last.

How much does the kit cost? van floor dimensions- 2.510m by 1.562m.

How difficult to do?

cheers nel.

I do the full kit for 100 you can see a van done out at http://www.window-tools.com/window-cleaning-van-system.htm
It will last as long as the van will.

You now get a non slip top coat , and it is hard to tell the difference from Speedliner.
You lay the matting down and brush or roller the resin over it, once that dries you roller or brush on the top coat.  A bit messy but easy to do.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

Chris Cottrell

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2005, 11:29:37 pm »
its not quite as easy as rolling or brushing it on ....if you don't roll all the air out from under the wet matting when you lay it the air bubbles left behind pop the fibre glass off the suface after it goes hard
leaveing the van floor open to water build up then when the water cant escape it starts to rust

Peter Fogwill

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2005, 11:48:06 pm »
its not quite as easy as rolling or brushing it on ....if you don't roll all the air out from under the wet matting when you lay it the air bubbles left behind pop the fibre glass off the suface after it goes hard
leaveing the van floor open to water build up then when the water cant escape it starts to rust

Chris, has this happened to you?   If so It can't have been the same fibreglass I use. 

When you apply it the resin soaks through the matting and is very heavy, no air pockets have ever developed on any I have done.  Once this is dry another completely separate top coat goes on the top, no water can pass through this.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

Chris Cottrell

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2005, 11:58:05 pm »
Peter

Im speaking from experience
3 years laminating for lotus cars

If theres something I know its fibreglass


Chris

Peter Fogwill

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2005, 12:13:47 am »
Hi again Chris,

So you have a lot of experience with fibreglass flooring.  What sort of percentage would you say developed the problems you mentioned above?

And what sort of life-span would you put on a fibreglass floor?

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

jsm

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2005, 08:03:27 am »
Peter

Im speaking from experience
3 years laminating for lotus cars

If theres something I know its fibreglass


Chris

I would vacuum bag the lot - gets rid off all the bubbles - now now one ones what we are going on about haha 
( I build my own kiteboards - can do a good carbon floor is you got money to burn  ;D )
John Malone
JSM. Window & General Cleaning
(  North Wales  )
Giving homes a shine sicne 1989

one of the early gang of wfp er's ---- remember , when you cant see out - give JSM a shout

neil100

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2005, 08:49:57 pm »
Just been to the web site busydaffidal mentioned. yes it can be sprayed onto the van floor.Its got all the tech detail you could wish for. Its a polyurethane paint and sounds the business. great price to boot.

Looks like one job sorted for sure.

Thanks daff.

busydaffodil

Re: van modification?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2005, 09:24:33 pm »
"Lizzy Takes a bow"

Pleased to have been of service.   

Lizzy

George-Reid

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2005, 10:10:40 am »
Hi
A modified van is one which has after market items fitted to it such as a turbo or alloy wheels or lowered suspension etc etc. In other words it usally is something which increases the performance of the vehicle.

Fitting a tank to a van does not make the van modified.

You should insure your van only on one policy you should then have a second policy which covers the equipment fixed and normally carried in the van. This policy should be for full replacement value of the goods where as your van policy will be age related.

You are not required to have the second policy but it makes sense.

I would allways inform the insurance company of what you are doing even if you only insure the van.

Cheers
George
Spectrum Advanced Services Ltd
The Specialist In Wheeled Bin Washing
Domestic, Bulk, Commercial & Industrial
Equipment Supply
Environmental Best Practice Green Apple Award Winner
N.E. Scotland

Trademark WC

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2005, 06:06:08 pm »

Hi There,

I have had both Protecta kote and speedliner in my vans, My opinon is proteckta kote is much better !! don't beleive the hype on speedliner.

My Tranny with speedliner, ripped after two months, caused by hose reel falling over in the back !! cost me £600 quid.

My berlingo with protectakote, still going strong, I have sold it to my dad who has just moved house and is throwing all concrete blocks,slabs rubbish n stuff in there and there not a mark in the liner. cost me about £100 including the fiberglass to fill the holes.

Rob - speakin from experience

neil100

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2005, 06:35:37 pm »
Cheers for that Rob.

Had decided to go with protectakote,not just because of price, but because they use it in the maritime industry. boats, sailing, salt water,its got to be good.

Did you apply it yourself or get somebody else to do it?

where you pleased with the finished result? Or would you pay extra and have somebody spray it on.

Is it has easy has it says on the tin to apply?

Should you just do the floor or everything?

Sos if their are to many questions,just want to get things right first time.



neil100

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2005, 06:43:53 pm »
Thanks george.

Just insured the van today.£295.00 fully comp.thats starting from scracth without transfering my car policy.Not bad eh,the vans worth £10,000.

Best not put any alloys on.dont want to mod it.

cheers nel.

busydaffodil

Re: van modification?
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2005, 08:21:36 pm »
neil....for your info.....we did our van ourselves.  Pretty easy to paint on with a brush.  Just make sure floor is clean & dry.
Also, we did a few inches up the side.  If water is spilled then, it does not get into the seam around the edge. (In theory).
Lizzy

Trademark WC

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2005, 08:45:53 pm »

Hi Mate,

I applied it myself, my advice is much the same as spraying  a car, the preperation stage is the most important part, rush that and you will regret it.

It would be easier to spray it on, providing you have the correct equipment. Although saying that it wasn't hard to apply it myself, I guess it all comes down to how much time you have on your hands.

I would recomend a you leave it to cure for as long as possible to ensure a good bond.

I did big post on it around january-febuaruy time on the other forum, I tried to find it but I can't? see if you have more luck as I went through all the stages, and added a few pics too.

Rob

Re: van modification?
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2005, 09:02:38 pm »
Neil - so long as you follow the instructions to the letter - it will be fine - use correct thinners like Xylene and paint the second coat when the first is tacky -

I painted the floor, the arches, and up to four inches on the sides - no problems
Oh yes.. one other thing - if you use cloths to wipe the thinners off, just bin them - I tried washing them and it took weeks to get the smell out of the washing machine ;D

neil100

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Re: van modification?
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2005, 09:54:08 pm »
Davindo- if your applying second coat while the first coat is tacky,wont you be kneeling in tacky paint and ruining the first coat of paint.

the internal dimensions are quite large.

cheers nel.