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GB Window Cleaning

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pure water storage duration
« on: April 24, 2011, 07:53:53 pm »
ok wfp'ers, ive been storing pure water since thursday morning, some in my trolley thats been in my (very hot) daylight exposed porch and some in a 25 ltr barrel in my van that is not exposed to the sun but still hot from the sun on my driveway

Now ive just tested the water in my trolley and its 007 ppm and also looks like theirs some slight mold growth inside the trolley

the water in the 25 ltr barrel was stil 000 ppm  ???

as anyone any explanations please?

GB


GB Window Cleaning

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2011, 08:37:44 pm »
so anyone any advise?  :(

luther1

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2011, 08:50:19 pm »
The tds is high because the water is warm. When it cools down it will be back to 000ppm. TDS rises at 4.55% for every degree celsius due to ions moving around faster in warm water.

Klean07

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2011, 08:59:45 pm »
Had mine for months stored in 1,000 litre ibc's still ok.
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GB Window Cleaning

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 09:15:01 pm »
thanks for the response luther. i tipped that 007 ppm water away in the garden, whoops ::)
i'll follow your advice next time and test it when its cooled again.

your answer still doesnt explain the slight mold growth though!

and what about people with hot water systems? or do they only heat the water as it passes through to the pole?

thanks mate

GB

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2011, 09:16:08 pm »
Had mine for months stored in 1,000 litre ibc's still ok.

oh right  :o

was your tank exposed to sunlight?

Spruce

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2011, 09:17:45 pm »
........and the mould on the inside of the tank is probably alge.

We get it inside our tanks that are clear plastic and the are exposed to the sun. We wash it out with clean tap water using a cloth taped to the end of a broom stick and then jetted out with the hose pipe. You will probably be able to rig something up with a thinner diamt rod to clean your barrells. Someone suggested that they are filled with water and some Milton and left to stand for a few hours then rinse out to clean them.
A strong concentration of water mixed with bleach should also work. Empty water into the drains and keep away from eyes, skin and clothing.
This mould doesn't appear to alter the TDS of the water and doesn't interfere with the clean unless the water begins to get slimmy.

My van now is fairly dark inside with blacked out windows, full steel bulkhead and an old duvet cover over the tank, so I now clean it out about once a year if that. When I had the tanks on a trailer I had to clean them every couple of weeks.

Spruce

Added.
The chaps who use hot water systems heat the water as it is pumped to the windows. Some of the guys were heating the water in their tanks with electric elements, but this won't be the cause of the growth, although it may grow quicker because of the warmth.
The chlorine in the water is what kills alge and we remove the chloine before filtering the water through the RO. But our water is exposed to the air which also carries these alge spoors in the air. As we empty our tanks air is drawn in from the atmosphere together with any particles in the air. No chlorine means that the spoors grow with the aid of sunlight.
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luther1

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 09:27:26 pm »
The mould is photosynthesis. Hot water has the same impurities as cold but the conductivity alters hence the different tds readings.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 09:41:44 pm »
@spruce... thanks for taking the time to answer me, thats cleared up alot of questions mate!

thanks again

GB

Spruce

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 09:51:23 pm »
When we had a house in South Africa with an out door swimming pool, the way we kept our pool water crystal clear was to dose it every night with chlorine. The chlorine killed off all the germs, alge etc overnight, but the sun 'bleached'/removed the chlorine out the the water during the day and so had to be redosed every night. If you didn't put chlorine in the water every night, the water soon turned green.
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p1w1

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2011, 10:43:18 pm »
Where abouts in s.a did you live spruce my partner is from durban so we tend to go there for x mas..sorry to go off topic

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 09:03:26 am »
so the moral of this story is to not let your water get exposed to sunlight?!

Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 09:22:13 am »
My wife is also from Durban I am from Cape Town.

Spruce

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 09:27:14 am »
Where abouts in s.a did you live spruce my partner is from durban so we tend to go there for x mas..sorry to go off topic

Hi,

I was born in Johannesburg and although moved about a bit, we were in Randburg (part of Greater Johannesburg) before we migrated to the North East where my wife originates from.
My late younger brother Michael was born in Durban when my folks lived in Kloof about 57 years ago. Kloof was out in the 'bundu' in those days. They had a large plot of land with an orchard of fruit trees next to a golf course, but I have never been able to pin point it's exact location.

Good old days but over now.

Spruce
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bumper

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 09:31:02 am »
hi does anyone know a bloke called gordon  ;D  from manchester

Spruce

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2011, 09:34:17 am »
My wife is also from Durban I am from Cape Town.

Hi Wiz

Yes, I knew you were from SA long time back. Some of the words you use in some of your posts would only be used by a South African and fully understood by another.
You are down in Bassingstoke aren't you?

When I was working in Reading for a year I found a lot of South Africans in that part of the world. Quite a few used to hang out at the Black Boy pub in Shinfield.

Spruce
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Spruce

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2011, 09:35:44 am »
hi does anyone know a bloke called gordon  ;D  from manchester

 ;D ;D ;D
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Spruce

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2011, 09:40:28 am »
Had mine for months stored in 1,000 litre ibc's still ok.

Ours is stored in a dark garage with no problems of green growth. I fellow cleaner had his in his back garden in the sunlight and he was for every cleaning it out. I see he now has a black tank in the back which he won't experience the same problems with, as black plastic prevents sunlight from penetrating into the water.
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GB Window Cleaning

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2011, 03:32:21 pm »
Had mine for months stored in 1,000 litre ibc's still ok.

Ours is stored in a dark garage with no problems of green growth. I fellow cleaner had his in his back garden in the sunlight and he was for every cleaning it out. I see he now has a black tank in the back which he won't experience the same problems with, as black plastic prevents sunlight from penetrating into the water.


thanks for the response spruce. some good ideas there mate!

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: pure water storage duration
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2011, 03:33:10 pm »
hi does anyone know a bloke called gordon  ;D  from manchester

No but i know someone called pete from america! is that any good to you mate?  ;D