[waynebarry]

Hi folks, I have been asked today to provide a qoute to clean some walls in a industrial unit which hsa had a water leak.
All the wall in around the offices, kitchen & toliets have black mould on the walls in some places they are quite bad.(about 600sqm of wall)

Can someone give me advice on a chemical they have used which is best to clean and kill the black mould spoures?

your help and advice would be greatly appriciated on this one.

[Small but perfectley formed]

Evans vanodine make a product called protect this kills mould spores ring them for a local stockist

[steve scotter]

Don't do it!

You need to know what you are doing with the decontamination of hazardous substances.

Should you do this sort of work incorrectly and someone became ill due to your actions or admissions, you could find yourself in a lot of trouble.

Steve
Health and Safety Technical Manager and cleaner.

[Denise l]

Try Domestos, works every time. Wear your PPE and mask.

[The Great One]

Hi

Wayne, it's going to depend on if they just want the surface mould treating or if they want it all drying out and the substructure treating also.

for surface mould then a product like detox mould and mildew remover with melt it off the walls (mask and goggles please).

If they want the latter then they will need a mould decontamination expert and you should tell them this as it may be growing behind the walls and floor if the walls are false walls.

As Steve says any decontamination needs an expert, it's a whole field on it's own.

Best of luck

Martin

[jasonl]

Try Domestos, works every time. Wear your PPE and mask.

Oh dear

[Denise l]

What do you think is in Dettox Mould and Mildew Cleaner then for your bathrooms? No, 'Oh dear' about it.

[jasonl]

This is 600m2 in amn industrial unit , not a patch  in a bathroom.

I once did a mould clean up in a hotel in Prague, the dry risers were full of mould, we used HEPA vacs first , before starting the clean,  no bleach of any kind was used.   Writing up the protocols(risk assesments and method statements took 3 of us days to complete along with several meetings.

THe clearance testing bill was 8k alone . the total job value was $1.2million . A bit of bleach on concrete/comcrete blocks  would get you laughed off the job in seconds.

The original poster said this was an industrial unit , what if it is to be used for food production? or electronics , " oh right mate ,we are gonna use gloves and goggles and some bleach it will be a tp job"   

I am afraid the cleaning industry is littered with people who have limited knowledge and training ,who rely on basic knowledge gleaned from forums who think the job is easy/simple/quick.

[BDCS]

I am interested on how you would go about a job like this - if you don't want to go into it on open forum I'd appreciate an e mail. I would never even quote on this type of job - just interested. What was the source of the mould in Prague ? undisclosed protein staining 

[Denise l]

I am afraid the cleaning industry is littered with people who have limited knowledge and training ,who rely on basic knowledge gleaned from forums who think the job is easy/simple/quick.

Sorry if I upset you, obviously touched a raw nerve. No basic knowledge for me though having 30 years experience, the first company to have brought an Ultrasonic machine into Britain from America and build an ionised air unit for Fire & Flood Restoration  20 years ago. I still use bleach to remove mildew and black mould but obviously whats causing it is a different matter and needs investigation but this would be a matter for the insurance companies to give authority to carry out.

[steve scotter]

Denise

With respect Jason is right, training is this industry is very limited.

If you want to work with hazardous substances you need correct training and equipment.

I read comments all the time on these web sites from people who are advising others, on how to do something on which they haven,t got a clue.

Training in the UK is not good enough!


Steve Scotter
EMT BDMA MBICs IOSH
Nebosh General Certificate
Health and Safety Manager

[jasonl]

Bleach will not remove black mould and mildew , it will merely kill it. There are a lot more indepth methods available  than applying bleach to mould.

[Denise l]

Denise

With respect Jason is right, training is this industry is very limited.

If you want to work with hazardous substances you need correct training and equipment.

I read comments all the time on these web sites from people who are advising others, on how to do something on which they haven,t got a clue.

Training in the UK is not good enough!


Couldn,t agree more. The Fire & Flood School is a good training body which I attended years ago when it first started.

Yes, you do need training with hazardous chemicals and the right way to use equipment if you decide to specialise in this type of work. Have done numerous fire  flood jobs over the years.

Denise
 IOSH, NEBOSH

Steve Scotter
EMT BDMA MBICs IOSH
Nebosh General Certificate
Health and Safety Manager

[Kev Martin]

Hi folks, I have been asked today to provide a qoute to clean some walls in a industrial unit which hsa had a water leak.
All the wall in around the offices, kitchen & toliets have black mould on the walls in some places they are quite bad.(about 600sqm of wall)

Can someone give me advice on a chemical they have used which is best to clean and kill the black mould spoures?

your help and advice would be greatly appriciated on this one.

Yes I can advise you!  Don't take this the wrong way!  LEAVE WELL ALONE!!!  You need to know exactly what you are doing before undertaking this sort of work.  If you are interested then |may I suggest you give the National Flood School a ring and talk it through with them.  You will need to do a couple of courses with them.

Kind Regards

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marble Life Ltd

[Bryan Griffith]

Re black mould those who say stay clear are right given the limited experience you seem to have. there are many risk factors dealing with mould there is your health and safety to consider mould likes nothing better than warm damp atmospheres and your lungs are an Ideal breading ground if the mould is inhailed.
you also have a duty of care for any staff onsite and their well being.
you have not said what the source of the leak is from, is it a roof leak, water pipe ,foul water from sanitary ware there are different risks depending on the source.
There is also the make up of the walls as mentioned on this forum.
I would advise if in doubt leave it out and let those skilled in this area of work to deal with it short term profit can sometimes lead to long term problems.