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dave park

  • Posts: 81
Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2011, 12:25:45 am »
I'm not doing any more quotes for work,
I'm too busy!!

I'll just turn up - do the clean - decide what to charge ;D

After all- I've been doing this job for 20+ years - just trust me!!!! HA HA-NOT A CHANCE

mark dew

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #81 on: April 02, 2011, 12:31:31 am »
Its like pricing a new job up! tell them what you can do but dont tell them how much! Thats the way forward! Not.
I thought it was a simple request. Not been funny.
5 hours a week for 1 month. How much please?  And whats your average return figures? (what can i expect for my money
Sorry but these are what i have to tell people before i do any cleaning for them!

Not over the telephone you wouldn't.
If you were serious about it you should contact her.

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #82 on: April 02, 2011, 12:35:52 am »
ERRRRRR i give prices straight away over the phone! Why cant someone else offering a service do the same. She seems to know her stuff so should be able to give me a idea?
If someone said to you i have a 3 bed with no conservatory all standard. How much to clean my windows. YOU WOULD KNOW wouldnt you?

dave park

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2011, 12:43:12 am »
Dead sure I'd at least be able to give a from and to price ::)

Maybe she operates on the basis of "what were you quoted by such n such"
and then offers to match it but for a much better service, after all she knows all about window cleaning from coming on here  :P :P

mark dew

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2011, 12:52:09 am »
No i wouldn't say without seeing the job 1st.
You could have sent her an email and got your answers using a tenth of the words you have posted about it on here.



dave park

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2011, 01:00:32 am »
But we read many posts on here asking how much we'd charge for this job and that job
and i'm sure kate has read them too.

If Kates offering a tip top service surely she should be prepared to put her prices on display,
you never know-it could persuade the sceptics to show more respect for her claims of success ::)

mark dew

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #86 on: April 02, 2011, 01:09:27 am »
But we read many posts on here asking how much we'd charge for this job and that job
and i'm sure kate has read them too.

If Kates offering a tip top service surely she should be prepared to put her prices on display,
you never know-it could persuade the sceptics to show more respect for her claims of success ::)

Yes you have a point.
But whether she is prepared to or not is up to her. But i reckon the real reason is that she wouldn't be interested in converting sceptics. She probably wants to work with people who want her services.

dave park

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #87 on: April 02, 2011, 01:20:06 am »
But surely telesales is all about converting sceptics ???

Hard nuts to crack and all that, Kates words not mine.

If she can't sell herself to us lot it doesn't instill confidence I'm affraid.

Any way, I'm off to clean windows now on pubs n shops that i got mainly from
referals, not telesales ;D
I should be finished for 8 am then off for a windsurfing session-gotta make the most of the high winds (makes up for the days work i missed yesterday)

Kate2

Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #88 on: April 02, 2011, 01:25:03 am »
Correct Mark

Its not just appt setting, how many of you have an electronic file I could send if Im asked for information.  PDF wise?  Its far more in depth.  I feel quite hurt about some of your assumptions on here that Im just here to make money because Im not, I will only work with people who will work with me.  Whose going to buy the data in? Me, whose going to follow the appointment up? Me, whose going to find out what is currently going on, Me.  Whose going to put the data up in the clouds for you to share, Me.  Whose going to TPS check the number when you get another number to call, to protect your business, me. I dont need the business but I just wanted to clarify its not just picking up the phone :(

R W C™

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #89 on: April 02, 2011, 01:32:39 am »
I think you some of you need to back off a bit.
Ive spoken to Kate on the phone on many occasions and had her do some hours for me with some very good results and will be continuing with the service, when ever I get a quote I get a call  with job name, number,address, a time and day to quote, any businesses she contacts but dont want a cleaner I get to find out reasons why like the ones she stated, done in house, national company, staff do them etc etc, if its a contract job I get to find out when the contract is up. I get a call from her a couple of hours after I quote to see how it went etc so she really does take note and likes to be upto date with whats going on, she is a very easy person to get on with and very polite which I like as she is representing my business,
Put it this way the work she has pulled me in will cover what I pay for her service each calender month so im breaking even now anything she gets me Monday will be my profit.

Kentkleen I think it will be hard for her to determine what she will bring you in on each day canvassed as one day might be nothing but on another you could get a a small nursing home for £90 a month with a chance to tender all of there sites  ;)

I think many of you will have a different opinion of her if you gave her a call.

Small but perfectley formed

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #90 on: April 02, 2011, 06:23:32 am »
Looks like someone else bullied of the forum. :'(
Spit and polish

R W C™

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #91 on: April 02, 2011, 08:55:20 am »
Looks like someone else bullied of the forum. :'(

Looks like it, Ill get her back on as she really misunderstood

Steve CM

Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #92 on: April 02, 2011, 12:47:17 pm »
Chris. Don't bother sharing the info mate. Let these pratts with the dicks the size of peanuts keep mouthing off to a woman.

It ain't worth it! more for all of us i say ;D

wpclean

Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #93 on: April 02, 2011, 01:31:37 pm »
Chris. Don't bother sharing the info mate. Let these pratts with the dicks the size of peanuts keep mouthing off to a woman.

It ain't worth it! more for all of us i say ;D
I really like your website steve, do you get much work from it ?

Steve CM

Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #94 on: April 02, 2011, 01:45:06 pm »
Nothing what so ever. It was a total waste of money. Same as the money i spend on telesales ;)

Stevie G

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #95 on: April 02, 2011, 03:58:53 pm »
hi kate, can you just clear something up for me. are you tele-sales and marketing for a living.

all the best stevieg.

Matthew JN

Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2011, 04:34:13 pm »
Hi Sapphire,   sorry Matt,

Just want to bring your post back on the rails here.

Nice one with the agencies - you didn't mention but again assumption these were commercial letting agencies - although saying that you can have good potential to get work from a residential agency providing tennant check-out cleans things like that.

Just wanted to give you a couple of tips - others mention about targeting small to medium commercial clients who are fairly local - and i think that is good advice. Set yourself a radius that you are happy to travel to and work within, then have a drive about taking note of all the office blocks/buildings that you can comfortably clean, make a note of the company/building names and if possible have stroll in and try to find out who the building landlord is - are more importantly the managing agent (some landlord do manage themselves), once you understand the building management chain so to speak you can then approach the right people and ultimately the right person - try to get the email address of the person first and work from there. Alot of commercial is won on price these days so emphasise how you could save this person and their budget money.

mci services

Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #97 on: April 02, 2011, 10:03:17 pm »
Hi Sapphire,   sorry Matt,

Just want to bring your post back on the rails here.

Nice one with the agencies - you didn't mention but again assumption these were commercial letting agencies - although saying that you can have good potential to get work from a residential agency providing tennant check-out cleans things like that.

Just wanted to give you a couple of tips - others mention about targeting small to medium commercial clients who are fairly local - and i think that is good advice. Set yourself a radius that you are happy to travel to and work within, then have a drive about taking note of all the office blocks/buildings that you can comfortably clean, make a note of the company/building names and if possible have stroll in and try to find out who the building landlord is - are more importantly the managing agent (some landlord do manage themselves), once you understand the building management chain so to speak you can then approach the right people and ultimately the right person - try to get the email address of the person first and work from there. Alot of commercial is won on price these days so emphasise how you could save this person and their budget money.

That is sound advice thanks ;)

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #98 on: April 04, 2011, 06:27:42 pm »
Might be worth you looking at our Bid To Win course

http://www.training43.com/training-courses/bid-to-win.php

Me and the Mrs are going to the one in Crawley next week!

Matt I might have something coming up in Essex, involving communal area cleaning - possibly weekly. Also up to 20 metre wfp - if you cant do the window cleaning would you be interested in the weekly communal?

Hi Darran, yes I would be interested in the communal cleaning.


Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Darranvps

Re: Commercial Window Cleaning
« Reply #99 on: April 04, 2011, 06:33:28 pm »
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