[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Can you buy these private without VAT?

I know nothing about this sort of stuff! 

Yes & 4 to 5k would get you a beauty.

Sarcasm?  I'm not sure what the wink means!

Or can it buy something decent?  I really aint got a clue! 

No, really. A pre '07 scudo/expert/dispatch. with that budget you would be picking from the best examples, especially private.

[Tom White]

Thanks, Win, mate.  I think I'll start looking. 

Now anyone, where's the best places to look?  Are there any good interweb sites, or local papers, or is there local magazines dedicated to selling stuff like vans?

Cheers!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Thanks, Win, mate.  I think I'll start looking. 

Now anyone, where's the best places to look?  Are there any good interweb sites, or local papers, or is there local magazines dedicated to selling stuff like vans?

Cheers!

Google "autotrader"

[Frankybadboy]

http://www.roberts4vans.co.uk/sales.asp?new=&ref=&notRef=&region=&order=&Model=&Make=&notMake=&notModel=&BodyType=&notBodyType=&FuelType=&Transmission=&intMin=&intMax=&RSpage=4&popup=&pricerange=&Modela=&term=&deposit=&mileage=


about the 4van down only 25k on clock

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

http://www.roberts4vans.co.uk/sales.asp?new=&ref=&notRef=&region=&order=&Model=&Make=&notMake=&notModel=&BodyType=&notBodyType=&FuelType=&Transmission=&intMin=&intMax=&RSpage=4&popup=&pricerange=&Modela=&term=&deposit=&mileage=


about the 4van down only 25k on clock

Only 815kg payload though that one. would be fine for 400ltr tank but not 650.

[TomCrowther]

Before Slumps says it, I will. Go for the lwb hi roof version, they will have H2 L2 in the description. This will give you a payload of 1200kg {i think} which is great for a 650 tank, pressure washer and two fat mates  

[Frankybadboy]

why does tosh need a 650 tank

[Tom White]

Franky, I work with Wor Lass and she'll be using a pole, so I probably would need a 650 tank; maybe.

She only works short days so maybe 400 litres would be enough and I could top up if needed.

Hey, thanks guys; and Malc for starting this post; I'm not in any great hurry, so I can look around for a bargin.

Cheers.

[chopsie]

I got a 55 plate(2005) transit with 68000 miles on the clock in November 09 for £5000, So  I should think you could get a 2006/2007 one for that price now.

[Tom White]

I got a 55 plate(2005) transit with 68000 miles on the clock in November 09 for £5000, So  I should think you could get a 2006/2007 one for that price now.

Does it make sense to go looking for a VAT free deal?  Anything I find on the interweb always has +VAT.

Or should I just accept that when buying a van, I pay VAT?

[AuRavelling79]

OK Tosh - that pic you posted is the baby.

The 815kg payload jobby is fine for you, 500L a backpack and worlass. (After all she is only about 50kg of gorgeous fitness errr ... and very slim and athletic, tops.  )

I know several windies who use these vans with 2 up and a 400/500/650L tank. The 650 husband and wife team I know drew a line on the tank at about 550L so as to not go over the 815Kg payload. I went to the Dursley auctions this time last year with one windy and there were several vans and he got a nice 06 on 38000 miles for £3.8K - he's got a 500L on board and another I know has a 400 and takes 2 or 3 25L barrels for his backpack which he uses too.

The greatest window cleaner of all (My hero - Roy Harding from Monmouth) has one (or the Citroen equiv. - same van different badge) and I bet he'd let you see his - his was new I think - on a 2003 plate.

Don't go long wheelbase - don't go to the new shape - they are less easy to park and get onto narrow drives - completely unnecessary IMO. But don't get a 1.9 - get the 2.0 110bhp diesel - they are more powerful and economic. (I've got the same engine in my Pug family estate and it's on 170K and drives like a good un.

These vans project the right image of being serious about your business without being "vanwrap overkill lookatme and my wedge".

[Frankybadboy]

tosh you are always going to pay vat when by from the forecourt,

if you dont want vat then look private sales

[AuRavelling79]

tosh you are always going to pay vat when by from the forecourt,

if you dont want vat then look private sales

But Vat is still in there it's just not differentiated.

"They" post the Vat so that if you are Vat registered you know that is what you can claim back from the Vatman.

If like me you aren't vat registered then what you pay including vat is what goes on your books as what the van cost for writing down purposes.

[Tom White]

There's some great info there, thanks guys.

And if anyone is after a fight, there's a good topic in the off-topic area! 

[AuRavelling79]

There's some great info there, thanks guys.

And if anyone is after a fight, there's a good topic in the off-topic area! 

No there isn't! 

[clarkson]

 HI
 I had the scudo as in the picture good van but very thirsty for its size.

 I would recommend vivaro i know its a jump in size to the ones your considering but drives much better than the scudo/expert in this age group. pulls better, three seats massive payload loads of room for kit.

 my mate got a mint 57 for 5000 quid at the block.

 i honestly couldnt see the difference in running costs when i was running both.

 cheers

 john

[AuRavelling79]

 HI
 I had the scudo as in the picture good van but very thirsty for its size.

 I would recommend vivaro i know its a jump in size to the ones your considering but drives much better than the scudo/expert in this age group. pulls better, three seats massive payload loads of room for kit.

 my mate got a mint 57 for 5000 quid at the block.

 i honestly couldnt see the difference in running costs when i was running both.

 cheers

 john

Aren't the Vivaro's/Renaults the ones that had gearbox probs up to a 55 plate? The Scudo of the same shape as the Pug/Citroen is fine but I think it's a different engine to the Pug/Citroen.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I got a 55 plate(2005) transit with 68000 miles on the clock in November 09 for £5000, So  I should think you could get a 2006/2007 one for that price now.

Does it make sense to go looking for a VAT free deal?  Anything I find on the interweb always has +VAT.

Or should I just accept that when buying a van, I pay VAT?

You will have to pay vat from a dealer.

You will also have to pay vat from a vat registered private seller

You will NOT pay vat from a private seller who is NOT vat registered.

It's a whopping 20%!

Even a vat registered private seller you could haggle the price to counter some of the vat.

[alanwilson]

Tosh - we have an Expert 2.0HDI (110bhp) same shape as the one you posted a piccy of.  In my opinion they are the best van for window cleaning - double side doors, 35mpg, enough torque and nice to drive.  Mount a hose reel at each door and you've got a brilliant setup.

I do prefer my transporter (174bhp) but for cleaning windows the Expert is much better.

[AuRavelling79]

Tosh - we have an Expert 2.0HDI (110bhp) same shape as the one you posted a piccy of.  In my opinion they are the best van for window cleaning - double side doors, 35mpg, enough torque and nice to drive.  Mount a hose reel at each door and you've got a brilliant setup.

I do prefer my transporter (174bhp) but for cleaning windows the Expert is much better.

Told you ...