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markphil58

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Buying the right WFP system?
« on: February 09, 2011, 05:34:53 pm »
I have looked at several different makes of WFP systems and the prices vary by £1000s. Am I not right in thinking that all you need, apart from hoses, water tank, poles etc. are 3 filters + 1 reverse osmosis filter + a de-ioniser filter (for hard water areas) with the aim of getting the water to as near to 100% pure as possible. (around 99% is acceptable)
Whilst you do get what you pay for and for business I have always bought the best equipment I could afford, if one spent £9000 on a hot system would you really notice the difference between that and one half the price. If I disagreeumptions above are correct then it is only the quality of the filters that is important? Any advise would be gratefully received.  :)

Darranvps

Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 05:40:35 pm »
Two pre filters 1 or 2 ros and a di filter is all you need.
If you don't want to make your own system I would suggest you take a look at purefreedom as they are the right price and highly recommended on here by many users, although I haven't used them, yet myself

markphil58

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Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 08:44:46 pm »
Thank you for your advise. I had also looked at the Concept 2o system that was at the top regarding cost but also told that they were the Rolls Royce of systems???? Can anyone advise further. Thanks.  :)

Darranvps

Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 08:52:56 pm »
Having been a supplier of Ionics stuff and a developer of Facelifts original equipment, I can assure you that non of the rolls royces can clean any better than the ladas out there.

As long as the water is 100% pure and you know what you are doing, then you will get perfect results just through a DI resin filter and any pole, costing peanuts compared to Concept 20 and others.

However they all will look good in the back of your van - and don't forget the owners of these companies do live in nice properties and drive some very nice cars and would like to continue to do so, and really need your help in maintaining these lifestyles they have become accustomed to.  My advise would be to look after NO1 - YOU. If you can afford these systems go for it, you won't be dissapointed by any that you choose.

Good Luck


markphil58

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Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 09:18:53 pm »
Thank you for your advise iI do appreciate it.
Regards. :)

SPE

Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 10:59:27 am »
Having been a supplier of Ionics stuff and a developer of Facelifts original equipment, I can assure you that non of the rolls royces can clean any better than the ladas out there.

As long as the water is 100% pure and you know what you are doing, then you will get perfect results just through a DI resin filter and any pole, costing peanuts compared to Concept 20 and others.

However they all will look good in the back of your van - and don't forget the owners of these companies do live in nice properties and drive some very nice cars and would like to continue to do so, and really need your help in maintaining these lifestyles they have become accustomed to.  My advise would be to look after NO1 - YOU. If you can afford these systems go for it, you won't be dissapointed by any that you choose.

Good Luck


thats a great reply, just what people need to consider, too often they are over sold.
What does it really matter what the inside of your van looks like ?
If you have the space a static system is the way to go, this can be diy, all thats needed on board the van then is what you need to do your work.
Most importantly is a safe and secure tank, everything else is a doddle.
The business end of your system will always be the pole ( :P ;D ) as this is the part that will help you to work quicker and more efficiently.
My diy system is nothing special to look at but it has been changed around and tweaked over the years until its suited the way I work, I may not have been able to do this had I bought a fitted system. The downside though is I have lost count of the hours I've spent tinkering around with things, I could have just spent more on a fitted system and been up and running from day one.
The choice is yours  ;)

Scrimble

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Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 11:05:41 am »
all you need is a system to get the pure water you have produced onto the glass, spending 10k on a concept or ionics systems is no better than a pure freedom system or DIY, only difference will be how much money it will cost you,

i would defo get the tank in your van properly caged in and bolted to the chassis you dont want it sitting on your lap in an accident.




markphil58

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Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2011, 02:27:30 pm »
Thank you to all for your info and wish you all well for 2011.

Smudger

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Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 02:44:47 pm »
Rhino man have you had an apitha  appith   app  seen the light  ???

thats a great bit of advice

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

John drake

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Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 02:48:59 pm »
Build your own

Google : DIYWFP

Where has my post gone ?
drake_john@rocketmail.com

Darranvps

Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 07:48:33 pm »
Rhino man have you had an apitha  appith   app  seen the light  ???

thats a great bit of advice

Darran

Don't forget I first built my own purification system in 02/03, I also sold many of the home made systems I built for many companies - Lee - Excel in Harrogate, Gary - H20nGO (now in Australia) Jamie - Blade Cleaning - Bradford - John Smith -Luton, Paul - Vision Cleaning, Bradford to name a few  ;D ;D ;D All circa early 2002 - 2003

Sometimes its just easier to buy a ready made system - but it doesn't guarantee you any more contracts, it also doesn't mean you will do the job any better or faster. Just might work out more convenient for you.

At the end of the day its entirely up to you which way you decide to go.

TomCrowther

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Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 08:03:22 pm »
My thoughts are the big name systems sell peace of mind to the new WFPer. But once you understand what is need to get the water to the purity needed, it then just comes down to getting the tank fitted safely and good, light poles with "clean" brushes.
I also think that WFpers are like golfers, always after the next best driver/putter/bag or ball to make their game better. You can only get the glass so clean but the secret is do go it faster and with less effort and that normally involves small changes like a new connection that allows you to walk away from the van with hose and pole in hand with the water on instead of walking back to turn it on. Aquadapters to save time and water etc etc. But these things are less obvious and come with a bit of experience.

markphil58

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Re: Buying the right WFP system?
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 09:30:05 pm »
Thanks to all and any other info will be gratefully received. I think that from the feedback whilst the super dooper all in one systems are great there are certainly many more options about. Thanks. :) :)