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paul saunders

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2011, 05:34:56 pm »
Try one and you will see how quick and easy it is.ill second that Alex.I'm getting over 2 houses done without filling my backpack.think I'm using 10 litres a house and getting great results.



what a load of bollox, over two houses per fill using 10l per house .................. just how big is this backpack of yours.  ::) ::)
I can remember when waking up stiff in the morning was a good thing.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #81 on: February 20, 2011, 05:42:26 pm »
The aerial  jets are smaller than most and there are only two so the water could go further, also less surface bristle area.

windiewasher

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2011, 06:35:02 pm »
Ones 20 litres and ones 18.
Try one and you will see how quick and easy it is.ill second that Alex.I'm getting over 2 houses done without filling my backpack.think I'm using 10 litres a house and getting great results.



what a load of bollox, over two houses per fill using 10l per house .................. just how big is this backpack of yours.  ::) ::)
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Spruce

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2011, 09:27:42 pm »


Dai commented that he felt the jets could be pointed lower, but his observation could suggest that he is not running the brush vertically on the glass. I have experiemented with different angles on the glass myself and find the most comfortable is at a slight angle with the jets pointing upward. This is the only adjustment that you can get the built in scraper to touch the glass(with difficulty) although I reverted back to the guaranteed method of scrapping bird muck off with the edge of the brush head.

I don't have much compact work on my round, although this week I have a couple of streets to do. I haven't got the bottle to wash and walk away without rinsing but may try it on the first house on Monday and go back and evaluate it later once it has dried. I have always rinsed the glass brush off.

Spruce
I didn't say that mate, it must have been someone else, I bought the bare brush and jetted it myself.
I do think it's a great brush, just wish it was a bit wider.

Hi Dai
Sorry - I thought it was a post of yours. Apologises again.
Trouble is that if it was wider it would be far too heavy.
Spruce
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

windiewasher

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #84 on: February 20, 2011, 11:18:37 pm »
Yawn   :)


Dai commented that he felt the jets could be pointed lower, but his observation could suggest that he is not running the brush vertically on the glass. I have experiemented with different angles on the glass myself and find the most comfortable is at a slight angle with the jets pointing upward. This is the only adjustment that you can get the built in scraper to touch the glass(with difficulty) although I reverted back to the guaranteed method of scrapping bird muck off with the edge of the brush head.

I don't have much compact work on my round, although this week I have a couple of streets to do. I haven't got the bottle to wash and walk away without rinsing but may try it on the first house on Monday and go back and evaluate it later once it has dried. I have always rinsed the glass brush off.

Spruce
I didn't say that mate, it must have been someone else, I bought the bare brush and jetted it myself.
I do think it's a great brush, just wish it was a bit wider.

Hi Dai
Sorry - I thought it was a post of yours. Apologises again.
Trouble is that if it was wider it would be far too heavy.
Spruce
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Alex Allen

Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #85 on: February 23, 2011, 02:57:22 pm »
Hi
I have just weighed the Aeriel Brush and compared it to the Superlite DT Flocked brush. I included the Aeriel brush adaptor, thread adaptor and the plastic angle adaptor and the brush adaptor and angle adaptor on the Superlite. I also included the hose on both brushes that connect to my Aqua-daptor.

Superlite = 420g
Aeriel = 500g

both weighed on our food weighing scale.

The Aeriel brush is smaller than the Superlite, and has been commented before, would require more brush strokes on the glass to get the job done.

So where Alex gets the story from that it's lighter in definitely incorrect. The concern is that newbies like I was a few years ago, come onto this site seeking genuine info to help them on their way and don't always get it. This thread is a typical example. The only reason I bought an Aerial brush was on the back of Lee GLS comments that he found it works nicely for him, but I have personally been disappointed with it's performance. At 500g the brush is in the same weight class as the oval Vikans we used to use.

The only thing I can say in the Aeriel brush's favour it that it glides of leaded windows and makes quick work of them. Otherwise, it doesn't feature in my appraisal.

Spruce

 

I think it's quite clear just from some of the comments on this thread that Alex's knowledge of reality is somewhat. clouded? ;D


my superlite brush is 262g without the broom socket which is 30g superlite is 292g
my red aerial brush is 270g with screws and nuts the head assembly is 60g aerial brush 330g

the tecbuk bours hair brush is 210g, if i put a broom socket on that it would be 240g
that makes it over 50g lighter than the superlight
and it has almost 2 x the bristles as the gardiner extreme brush

if you do go to the extreme and chop off half the bristles
you can make vikan brushes lighter

aerial brushes are far better quality, better value for money and better for window cleaning
to be fair you carnt compare the superlight brushes with tecbuks aerial brush
its an unfair contest
your just a little ped off becaused you  brought several superlights
when you could have gone tp aldi

windiewasher

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #86 on: February 23, 2011, 03:01:43 pm »
Totally agree Alex.
How good is the black Aeriel brush?
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Lee GLS

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2011, 03:13:37 pm »
Alex how can your red brush be 330g and my red brush be 459g?

Alex Allen

Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2011, 03:19:06 pm »
Totally agree Alex.
How good is the black Aeriel brush?



very good mate
but i would say you could save your money and use a vikan brush for first cleans
if you dont mind the weight, if you do get the black aerial brush for first cleans
the black aerial brush will last for years if you only use for first cleans, so definately worth the money
take off all the dirt quickly then go over the glass again with you red aerial brush
saves a lot of time and you wont soil your red brush for your next job
so no risk of spotting, because the brush will be clean

Alex Allen

Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2011, 03:21:39 pm »
Alex how can your red brush be 330g and my red brush be 459g?


i weighed the brush
then the head, scraper part with the short connector
you must be weighing the extenions and angle cranks to get that figure

windiewasher

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2011, 03:51:54 pm »
Mine weighed in at 320g
Alex how can your red brush be 330g and my red brush be 459g?


i weighed the brush
then the head, scraper part with the short connector
you must be weighing the extenions and angle cranks to get that figure
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2011, 04:23:52 pm »
Alex how can your red brush be 330g and my red brush be 459g?

Because he's part of the sales team! ::)

When you're in sales you just pluck figures out of the air, tell 'em what they want to hear! ::)

Never heard so much bollox talked about a brush in my whole life! :o

Spruce

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2011, 04:56:17 pm »
I said I would continue with my Aerial brush this week. The first job I had on Monday was an internal and external clean; internals are done every second time. So I had the opportunity to see how the Aerial brush performed. Sadly it didn't clean very well and I had to go over a whole lot of windows again. I occasionally had to go over the odd window in the past if I missed something, but not like this. That brush cost me a virtual double clean.

I carried on with it but only made it until Monday dinner time (lunch time) before I pulled it off and put my SL back. The SL is tonnes better that this overweight, narrow rubbish. (Funny that each of our brushes weight differs so much.)

Unlike our 2 salesmen here, I won't recommend this brush at all - a waste of £53.00 plus extensions. And no Alex, I'm not pee'd off that I have so many SL brushes, and I will continue to support that brand. Its the best brush I have had since I started WFP with the oval Vikans 6 years ago.

I guess the design of the scraper that no one seems to be able to get to work properly is indicitive of the design of the rest of the brush.

The only redeeming feature of the Aerial brush is that it glides over leaded windows beautifully.

Spruce

ps. Oh, I forgot to mention, I also think the blue and white Tecbuc badge on the top of the brush is real class.

 
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Smudger

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #93 on: February 23, 2011, 05:11:13 pm »
Steady on guys.....

Alex you are quite right that you can not compare the ariel brush with an SL - for a start the Ariel is somewhat smaller
in size so the weight should be way lighter than the SL !

I will trial an ariel brush at sometime, but i have to say you banging on and on is making it far less likely to
happen esp. when an experienced w/c has slammed it.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Lee GLS

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #94 on: February 23, 2011, 05:17:31 pm »
I said I would continue with my Aerial brush this week. The first job I had on Monday was an internal and external clean; internals are done every second time. So I had the opportunity to see how the Aerial brush performed. Sadly it didn't clean very well and I had to go over a whole lot of windows again. I occasionally had to go over the odd window in the past if I missed something, but not like this. That brush cost me a virtual double clean.

I carried on with it but only made it until Monday dinner time (lunch time) before I pulled it off and put my SL back. The SL is tonnes better that this overweight, narrow rubbish. (Funny that each of our brushes weight differs so much.)

Unlike our 2 salesmen here, I won't recommend this brush at all - a waste of £53.00 plus extensions. And no Alex, I'm not pee'd off that I have so many SL brushes, and I will continue to support that brand. Its the best brush I have had since I started WFP with the oval Vikans 6 years ago.

I guess the design of the scraper that no one seems to be able to get to work properly is indicitive of the design of the rest of the brush.

The only redeeming feature of the Aerial brush is that it glides over leaded windows beautifully.

Spruce

ps. Oh, I forgot to mention, I also think the blue and white Tecbuc badge on the top of the brush is real class.

 


I personally havnt had any problems the the aerial brush cleans, I'm sure a bently brush would clean as well as a SL or the aerial brush.

Like I've said before I like the SL and aerial, both have there positives and negatives, at the end of the day brushchoice is down to personal preference.

Some on eBay yesterday sold a SL DT 15 deg brush after 3 days of use because he didn't like it, that doesn't make a bad brush.

dai

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Re: aeriel brushes
« Reply #95 on: February 23, 2011, 05:45:54 pm »
The SL has the edge when cleaning through those bars that cover first floor french windows.
I tried the Ariel on them yesterday and it was a pain.