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Poll

How many of you actually pre vac

Always
54.2%
45 (54.2%)
Sometimes
30.1%
25 (30.1%)
Never
8.4%
7 (8.4%)
Ask the customer to vac before I arrive
7.2%
6 (7.2%)

Total Members Voted: 67

Voting closed: February 02, 2011, 09:50:46 pm

The Carpet Cleaning Pro

  • Posts: 753
Pre Vac
« on: January 28, 2011, 09:50:46 pm »
Be honest Guys

derek west

Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 09:52:36 pm »
i'd of prefered very rarely but there is the odd occasion when i do.

Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 10:28:35 pm »
Always.
How many customers actually clean right to the edge.....none
Do I want my expensive machine clogged up with fluff......no
Is the job easier after a pre vac.....yes
Is it more time consuming....quite possibly
Do I get any call backs.....never

Carpet Dawg

  • Posts: 2968
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 10:29:33 pm »
I choose "ask the customer to vac" But i sometimes (very rare) have to vac when i get there.

Berber carpets for example clean up better i find with a very thourogh vac.

In a ideal world i'd always pre vac but time is money!!!

Tony

markpowell

  • Posts: 2279
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 10:30:16 pm »
I never vac and dont mind admitting it.
Mark

Linds Russell

  • Posts: 302
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 10:33:32 pm »
I advertise a quality service and commit 100% to hoovering on every job.

I inform my customers when doing quotes that they don't need to hoover for us as we take care of that as part of the service.

I know a guy who charges £3.50 per square metre and asks the customer to hoover. I find that a bit cheeky.
Linds

ian davison

  • Posts: 12
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 10:38:20 pm »
Every time,I was taught that way and always have.
After seeing what comes out the sebo wouldn't want that going through my machine.

Carpet Dawg

  • Posts: 2968
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 10:45:03 pm »
The fluff and debris wont go anywhere near your vacs. Dont you have a net thingy around the vac outlet/inlet in the waste tank? I attach a piece of ladies tights around it first then the netting so no crap gets through.

Works for me anyways.

Vacuming = a quality service  :-\ Dont understand that one.

ian davison

  • Posts: 12
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 10:52:29 pm »
I did have until I took it off to clean last week,can't get the b'stard thing back on now! Any one else have this problem? It's a powerflight perfect heat.

Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 10:59:21 pm »
The fluff and debris wont go anywhere near your vacs. 

Possibly not, but every minute your suction is reducing as the fluff builds up and slowly chokes the motors.
I want my motors working at the same efficiency from the first stroke all the way 3 hours into a job.

Simon@arenaclean

  • Posts: 1054
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 11:28:21 pm »
I did a lounge carpet just the other day and took loads of muck out with a vacuum. I believe it is part of the service, pre treatments in contact with the fibre rather than a surface of dust should be more efficient, and how often have I pulled a couch or piece of furniture to be met with dog hairs, fluff, small toys and old food and then there's the edges, customers never do them. It's just easier to vac anyway rather than have to pull it in after i've started. if it takes an extra hour to clean compared to others so be it.

I had a phone call from a customer earlier this evening who confirmed our quote and I did two things my competition did not. The first I bothered to go and quote the job, the second I explained what I was going to do soup to nuts and how long it would take. That's the 2nd quote in a week with direct competition that I know of and has netted over £500, and I was the most expensive. I am convinced a vacuum first is the right way for me I see it as a fundemental, others may not agree which is fine.

Colin Day

Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 11:32:07 pm »
I never vac and dont mind admitting it.
Mark

It's not as if your admitting to not washing behind your 4skin ;D ;D ;D

garyfindlay

  • Posts: 788
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 11:35:37 pm »
CHEESY

Max Campbell

  • Posts: 143
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 12:51:16 am »
Always. Not vaccing is just sloppy. I want to take pride. A lot of draft marks well reduced with hard vac with crevice nozzle. I'll vac better than the householder.

Not vaccing is leaving yourself open to losing the customer - to me, or other genuinely thorough cleaners.

Linds Russell

  • Posts: 302
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2011, 08:43:42 am »

Vacuming = a quality service  :-\ Dont understand that one.

Its part of the all round quality service. For me personally, I see not hoovering as cutting a corner and thats just the way I was trained. Being absolutely thorough!

I occasionally hear on quotes that the other guy asked them to hoover and it does make me laugh.
Linds

jsm

  • Posts: 558
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2011, 09:26:00 am »
dont even have a vac on the van  ;D
 so no never . I have done it in the early days but to be honest - the end result was no different .

I done a few courses and yes thats what they say , but also at the same time i was was getting training of a guy with 30 years under his belt , when i come back all excited , told them about the hoover part , the guy and his son just looked at each other and laughed  ;D

big stuff gets swept up with pile brush - the stuff missed as I go along gets the hose taken off the wand and sucked up .

if the water dont manage to go through the motors im sure a bit of fluff or the odd sweet  will be kept by the filters.
berfore i get slated lol - ive had the ninja 7 years and only on new vac motors last year .

anyway if you using a BAG hoover like a sedo or orek etc you loosing suction as you go along -- havnt you seen the dyson adverts lol

I bet those that do also have a van full of chemicals for this and that also ??

John Malone
JSM. Window & General Cleaning
(  North Wales  )
Giving homes a shine sicne 1989

one of the early gang of wfp er's ---- remember , when you cant see out - give JSM a shout

Griffus

  • Posts: 1942
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2011, 09:30:43 am »
Whether commercial or domestic I pre-vac every single time.

Sometimes people tell me they've already vac'd but I will always still go ahead and vac. It's rare that something / somewhere hasn't been missed.

I think part of this comes down to people not wanting us to think they don't keep their home clean, I always reassure them that the carpet looks particularly clean but the vac we use is lots more powerful than your average domestic and that it is important for me to go over it again to ensure as much dry dirt removal as poss and thus ensure the best level of clean.

Def slows me down but all included as part of my quote.

ian davison

  • Posts: 12
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2011, 09:42:42 am »
I can't see how it's time consuming!
It takes five minutes to vac a average size lounge!!
Bottom line is your doing a more thorough job when pre-vacuuming.



clinton

Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2011, 10:02:28 am »
Must say i also dont vac on every job.

If the carpet has dog hairs or really bad then i will..

jsm

  • Posts: 558
Re: Pre Vac
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2011, 10:44:22 am »
top tip from our worker back in the office cleaning days - if he went into a clean office he used to just drag his foot along the carpet to look like it was vacuumed lol

so do we electric vac or foot vac ? ....... we have been known to use the foot vac method  :o lol

another trick he used to do,  when window cleaning,  empty clean offices is the - open blind close blind - next window and repeat method  :o lol 
John Malone
JSM. Window & General Cleaning
(  North Wales  )
Giving homes a shine sicne 1989

one of the early gang of wfp er's ---- remember , when you cant see out - give JSM a shout