[steveo22]

Hi all, i am wondering on which is the best way to pay an employee, i currently employ 1 person who works alongside myself, the options i have considered are, day rate (what if we have to stop after a couple of hours due to weather etc...?,  Percentage of turnover per day 27%? or hourly rate?? Which do you use and why? Or any other suggestions welcomed.
Cheers
Steve

[formb]

Hourly. Rate dependent on performance.

[Handyman Window Cleaning Services]

i only employ on a zero hour contract.

i basically only pay the hours he works.

i have employed on a x amount of hour contract but it worked out too expensive paying out holiday pay when i
earned nothing cos of the rain

[formb]

Rain?

Don't stop for rain.

[Handyman Window Cleaning Services]

Rain?

Don't stop for rain.

unless it sideways rain.

some customers are ok with rain some are not

[formb]

If they are not ok, move on to the next one and say "not a problem, see you next month"

[mci services]

If they are not ok, move on to the next one and say "not a problem, see you next month"

agreed 100%

are zero hour contracts legal?

[Handyman Window Cleaning Services]

i try to get to know the customers way, if i can i arrange my round ti get the most work possibly done.

also if i have cleaned a customers windows and it rained the last 2 times i do them on a different day, as the will always feel that i am just doing their houses on rainy days.

[formb]

I have been at this for a long time. I know who will moan about the weather so I miss them out if it rains.

I used to stop for rain. I have realised that stopping for rain is mostly in your head, 1 customer moans, you think none of them are happy when in fact 90% could not give a monkeys.

[Handyman Window Cleaning Services]

If they are not ok, move on to the next one and say "not a problem, see you next month"

agreed 100%

are zero hour contracts legal?

yes

‘Zero contracts’ are contracts of employment which do not specify any number of hours that the employee will be required to work. They are common for shop workers. The contract says that instead of working a specific number of hours per week, you must be ready to work whenever you are asked.

‘Key time’ contracts are those where you are guaranteed some work, but are not guaranteed regular hours each week.

The problem with zero and key time contracts is that you are only paid for the time you work, so even if you have to wait on work premises or be at home waiting by the phone, you may not be paid for this waiting time. However, legally, if you're on a zero hours contract, you are entitled to be paid for any time you have to be on work premises waiting for work to come up, unless your contract of employment says otherwise. You should be paid your normal hourly rate or, at the very least, the National Minimum wage

the above was tken off another site

[Crystal-clear]

If they are not ok, move on to the next one and say "not a problem, see you next month"

Thats the way, just tell them you cant run a sucessfull business without working 5 days a week,

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

im liking this zero hour contract
will be looking into this ,
im sure ronnie will too n dean taberner  

[Handyman Window Cleaning Services]

If they are not ok, move on to the next one and say "not a problem, see you next month"

Thats the way, just tell them you cant run a sucessfull business without working 5 days a week,

5 days a week id like that amount of work, well i used too before i added an hour to the work instead of 9-4 we now work 8:30-4:30.  im saving on petrol a friday is freed up for gutter work etc all my rounds are done in the scheduled 4 weeks rather than a calender month = an extra clean a year from most of my round

[steveo22]

Thanks for the replies, what hourly rate do you all pay, i'm in the midlands if that makes any difference? Does anyone pay a percentage of work completed? My thinking was that turning over £300 a day between us, with a 27% share to the employee which turns out as £81 seemed fair? This is using all my own equipment, van etc... Also the employee would be responsible for paying their own tax, this is also based on an 7.5 hour day.

[Sean Dyer]

Thanks for the replies, what hourly rate do you all pay, i'm in the midlands if that makes any difference? Does anyone pay a percentage of work completed? My thinking was that turning over £300 a day between us, with a 27% share to the employee which turns out as £81 seemed fair? This is using all my own equipment, van etc... Also the employee would be responsible for paying their own tax, this is also based on an 7.5 hour day.

I have a similar set up to you mate but as the lad who helps me now and again only does downs , i pay him an hourly rate
When we can both pole a house each ie have a big enough van and system, then i will probably pay hourly rate + bonus % of work done above a certain figure

[Handyman Window Cleaning Services]

doing £300 and paying £81 seems very generous.

[steveo22]

doing £300 and paying £81 seems very generous.

Ok, i used to work for a pressure washing company and i received a 23% cut of a days turnover, but that was working alone, so you think 27% maybe too generous, bearing in mind that some days are only just over £200 which only works out as around £55 for a days work!