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Leeroy

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Canvassing
« on: January 17, 2011, 11:41:53 pm »
Where do you find people to do canvassing for you and what would you pay them ? I dont want people from the job centre or is that a good idea, are women better than men. Got to be cheaper than buying a round or is it.

alanwilson

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 11:47:24 pm »
if they are any good at canvassing then yes they'll be cheaper - but you won't know until you've tried them.

you could try incentives such as giving them the money for each first clean, therefore they are more likely to price high and the more customers they get the more they make
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Leeroy

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2011, 11:51:59 pm »
Are you saying pay them once a clean has been done rather than getting a booking

alanwilson

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 12:11:01 am »
yes

for example, if they were to canvass and get you 5 new customers at £20 each then they will get the £100 once the customers have been cleaned and are on the books.

Don't forget that because the price they quote is the pay they will get they will do their best to get you the best price.

I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Leeroy

  • Posts: 105
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 12:13:39 am »
Sounds like a good plan. They could also offer gutter cleaning etc

tradclean

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2011, 12:14:03 am »
save your money m8 & just put in your time, & do it yourself. that way you will always get what you want  ;)

Leeroy

  • Posts: 105
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2011, 07:37:13 am »
Didnt think of that..... I dont have time so was thinking of hiring some canvassers but as above which is a good idea they only get paid after first clean. Effectively I clean them first time for no income but hopefully they become a regular custard

Richard BF

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 09:52:58 am »
Hi leroy do you want to drop me an email on mail@fenechsfinesse.co.uk.


im in the process of setting up a canvassing companny with a target of £700 worth of work PCM from my team of canvassers.


thanks Richard.

Handyman Window Cleaning Services

  • Posts: 410
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 10:53:08 am »
its your business have some pride in it and do it your self.

what happens when you get customers and the canvasser stiches you up and gets the customer to have one off cleans.
Stephen C Brophy

Leeroy

  • Posts: 105
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2011, 01:41:47 pm »
Hi leroy do you want to drop me an email on mail@fenechsfinesse.co.uk.


im in the process of setting up a canvassing companny with a target of £700 worth of work PCM from my team of canvassers.


thanks Richard.

Yes please send me some details I will email you thanks.

Leeroy

  • Posts: 105
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2011, 01:49:46 pm »
its your business have some pride in it and do it your self.

what happens when you get customers and the canvasser stiches you up and gets the customer to have one off cleans.

Not sure why the negative response....Pride dont see how that comes into it. Would that be the same as someone buying around not having pride because they didnt knock on the doors themselves.

I am full on busy 7 days a week with WC and also my business so as I dont have the time to actively canvass I was looking for extra work by employing someone to canvass. And why not ? I was not going down to the detention centre and taking on some immigrants but I was going employ as above some decent people to get some work in. The first clean will be paid for the canvasser gets paid and if they screw up then they get no more work and I have lost out on 20minutes of my life which what I am doing right now replying to this post  ::)

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2011, 02:10:49 pm »
save your doe mate go and do the canvassing yourself at least you can get a bdecent price out of them i wouldnt entertaain outside canvassing

richywilts

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2011, 02:51:50 pm »
hiya mate iv used the same canvasser for a while to build up my round and it does build it up but believe me half the work will be rubbish and you will hate it having to go round cleaning peoples window who just dont want them doing regularly.

iv just dumped prob 70+ customers that my canvasser got me for these reasons, iv found from a lot they agreed to one off cleans etc i used to pay at end of the day say he got £100 worth of work id pay £100 too him but then dropped down to 0.75%.

i was gna giv him another go this month but he wanted 0.85% i said i wanted to ring rnd new customers welcome them on board etc n he sh*t himself n backed off. if you use a canvasser try and build up a good rapport get it wrote down what you want from him, things like prices,frequencys, get customers to sign to say they agree to a REGULAR clean (this he wouldnt do!!), other services they would be interested in etc

good luck im going to begin canvassing myself and only take people on who agree to regular 6 weekly service who really do need a cleaner.
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Richard BF

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2011, 03:29:51 pm »
i"ts your business have some pride in it and do it your self.

what happens when you get customers and the canvasser stiches you up and gets the customer to have one off cleans. "

thats where contracts come into play ;)

its finding a "decent" canvasser at the end of the day theres nothing saying anyone (not just canvassers) wont stitch you up its life unfortunatley but when running a reputable business stitching people up is the last thing that you want happening and i can assure you if any WC chooses my business to canvass for them and they feel like they are being stitched up then there will be an investigation.

but there is also a protocall for the said one off cleans ;)

lee09

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2011, 03:34:40 pm »
its your business have some pride in it and do it your self.

what happens when you get customers and the canvasser stiches you up and gets the customer to have one off cleans.

Not sure why the negative response....Pride dont see how that comes into it. Would that be the same as someone buying around not having pride because they didnt knock on the doors themselves.

I am full on busy 7 days a week with WC and also my business so as I dont have the time to actively canvass I was looking for extra work by employing someone to canvass. And why not ? I was not going down to the detention centre and taking on some immigrants but I was going employ as above some decent people to get some work in. The first clean will be paid for the canvasser gets paid and if they screw up then they get no more work and I have lost out on 20minutes of my life which what I am doing right now replying to this post  ::)


Negative response?
A month ago you were just starting out and asking for advice
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=114435.0#msg982141
Full on busy dreaming, get out and knock some doors
Lee

Kate2

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 04:11:01 pm »
I suppose each to their own way of doing things.

But he has said there is contracts in place, so this is professional, and quite rightly he wouldnt want to get himself a bad reputation, it wouldnt be of any benefit to anybody.

Lots of people outsource all different types of things.  Its just another project that you might necessarily want to outsource for one reason or another, time benefactor, confidence thing etc.

richywilts

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2011, 04:18:16 pm »
im not saying do not use a canvasser the descision is totally your call im just warning you of the pitfalls i experienced, i actually had a good relationship with my canvasser but i just didnt trust him 100% and i think he has got the best deal out the year or so i used him for most of my work is work iv got myself now unfortunately
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Kate2

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2011, 04:25:56 pm »
Thing is Richy it seems like quite a tight industry, people knowing people, so you just wouldnt want to take the risk of trying to pull a fast one

People always say, yes, get work by word of mouth, but that has an opposite effect too if you do a bad job

Richard BF

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2011, 04:55:05 pm »
like i said contracts are in place to avoid these issues...

if you still want a bit more info drop us an email.




Thanks Richard.

Leeroy

  • Posts: 105
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2011, 04:57:11 pm »
its your business have some pride in it and do it your self.

what happens when you get customers and the canvasser stiches you up and gets the customer to have one off cleans.

Not sure why the negative response....Pride dont see how that comes into it. Would that be the same as someone buying around not having pride because they didnt knock on the doors themselves.

I am full on busy 7 days a week with WC and also my business so as I dont have the time to actively canvass I was looking for extra work by employing someone to canvass. And why not ? I was not going down to the detention centre and taking on some immigrants but I was going employ as above some decent people to get some work in. The first clean will be paid for the canvasser gets paid and if they screw up then they get no more work and I have lost out on 20minutes of my life which what I am doing right now replying to this post  ::)


Negative response?
A month ago you were just starting out and asking for advice
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=114435.0#msg982141
Full on busy dreaming, get out and knock some doors
Lee

 ::)