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jasonl

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Pigeon guano
« on: January 14, 2011, 05:18:43 pm »
I have a  flat affected by the above to clean .


I am looking to spray with a sanitizer and keep wet whilst  shovelling and bagging , then disposing of it in a sealed skip , are there any other considerations I should be making?

Des anybody have any pricing tips /rates?

Thanks
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Pristine Clean

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Re: Pigeon guano
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 11:52:30 am »
You need to be qualified in this department and registered I think. (Could be wrong)

The disposal is very detailed so is the clean up procedure and if done incorrectly you are at risk or can put others at risk. If so could prove costly if you make a mistake.

If someone found out and the EA (Environmental Agency) found out there might be the need for some explaining.

Dave
"You have to except that some days you are the statue and other days you are a pigeon"

The Great One

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Re: Pigeon guano
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 10:50:58 am »
Hi

Jason, sadly in this country you don't have to be qualified to do trauma work.

once you spray down you have to leave for about 15 mins but use a bio cide not a sanitizer.

Keep spraying periodically while you are bagging, make sure you have PPE with a mask.

Once bagged you can dispose of as normal it is not hazardous waste anymore.

Charges, about £60 p/h

Good luck

Martin 8)

Pristine Clean

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Re: Pigeon guano
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 11:11:24 am »
Hi Martin

Why is then on company sites that they say its very technical blah blah?

I take it, it is just marketing to sell the service then?

So no special licence or qualification... so how does one know that it is not hazardous any more just because its been sprayed with a bio cide?

How can you prove it... or does that not matter

Dave
"You have to except that some days you are the statue and other days you are a pigeon"

jasonl

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Re: Pigeon guano
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 12:13:47 pm »
I am qualified for trauma clean up , there is no need as such to be qualified. However should anything go wrong , insurance and the HSE would need to be satisfied that the person carrying out the work is competant, and the main evidence of this is some kind of recognised training.

I had a very helpful phonecall from somebody in Kent offering knowledge of the correct chemical to use , and some methods . I will quote this job , and once I have completed it I will post up some photos in a step by step way , to help others.
Thankyou for your input.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Pristine Clean

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Re: Pigeon guano
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2011, 01:13:32 pm »
That will certainly be interesting to see it stage by stage. Look forward to that.
"You have to except that some days you are the statue and other days you are a pigeon"

The Great One

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Re: Pigeon guano
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 01:57:30 pm »
Hi Martin

Why is then on company sites that they say its very technical blah blah?

I take it, it is just marketing to sell the service then?

So no special licence or qualification... so how does one know that it is not hazardous any more just because its been sprayed with a bio cide?

How can you prove it... or does that not matter

Dave

Hi Dave

People put it up there to say, hey, yes we are qualified as this kind of work brings a premium price with it as it should.

But, anyone can clean blood etc for £10 p/h and they do it thinking they are on a good earner, whereas myself who is qualified with my HepB jabs etc would charge £100-200 p/h for blood work.

I had one such last year, attempted suicide, about 3 hours work, about 4 bio bags worth of waste and quoted £600 on the friday, went back in on the monday and the job had been done, but on checking certain places found dried blood (sofa) where kids could easily eat it (by putting their fingers in the sofa creases).

The landlord didn't want to pay my price, neither did the ins company. As for the waste, although i couldn't prove it i would bet money that it went in the communal bin in the street untreated, which was directly in front of the main door.

compared to one I did in September, which was 8 bio bags, all taken away correctly with a consignment note, treated correctly and one very happy customer.

Regards

Martin 8)

BDCS

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Re: Pigeon guano
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 10:01:28 pm »
If pigeon guano had its own waste code would this change if the waste has been treated with a biocide ? Has anyone been asked for a waste transfer note ? You can buy chicken manure for the garden - does this come with a transfer note or are you accepting commercial waste ? I have a waste transfer licence and its just another tax !