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Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« on: January 13, 2011, 06:31:23 pm »
I went to see a fitness trainer/dietician today because I need to lose 2 stone and havent felt the level of fitness Id like for a long long time.

Anyway, it was quite a revelation regarding how we are brainwashed into believing what is good for us and what is bad.

I had what was a thoroughly enlightening 90 minutes.

So far, and so far we have only started to scratch at the surface, I came away with a few lifestyle changes to start to implement and I was shocked with some of them.

They were:

Cut out all fruit.

Eat eggs to lower cholesterol.

Fat is okay in a diet if you want to lose weight.

Cut out caffeine altogether.

Have a fry-up for breakfast.



I thought that was all rather radical, but afer listening to some of his explanations I was inclined to agree with his thinking that we are hoodwinked/scammed/fed misinformation for the purposes of multi-national food companies,


We shall see how it goes, Im not on a diet, its a life-style change  ;D

chopsie

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Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 06:35:14 pm »
fry up every day sounds good to me  :)
don't drink coffee
love eggs (sorry i love eggs...perverts!)
rarely eat fruit

Jesus, i am on this diet already, do not do it matt, I am 18 stone  :o   no kidding  :-[
chopsie

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 06:41:11 pm »
I bet you eat white bread, white rice, cheese, crisps and chocolate though   ;D


Just realied this is in the wrong section, apologies.

Tom White

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 06:41:58 pm »
Cut out all fruit?  Tomatoes can't be fattening?  Neither can pomegranates, and what's the odd tangerine going to do to you?

And of course fat in a diet is okay; it's not the fat, it's how much of the fat you're consuming.

I can't believe you can have a fry-up for breakfast everyday if that consists of red meat.  Red meat, containing saturated fats would surely raise your cholesterol level; and the calorific content must be huge.

I've had to diet for sports before to be under a certain weight, and I just cut down the amount of food I ate and exercised, and the weight always came off me.

LWC

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Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 06:43:02 pm »
He's got you on Atkins diet mate. Youll drop weight in no time...try keeping it off tho!

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2011, 06:46:21 pm »
Its not a diet  ;D


Although saying that, he did suggest however that the Atkins diet is crap.

tom2009

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2011, 06:49:23 pm »
Its not a diet  ;D


Atkins lifestyle then........

chopsie

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Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 06:49:59 pm »
I bet you eat white bread, white rice, cheese, crisps and chocolate though   ;D


Just realied this is in the wrong section, apologies.
all the above, except crisps. chocolate is my serious downfall though, But its got to be cadbury's
chopsie

LWC

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Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 06:51:21 pm »
Well...it is.

http://uk.atkins.com/program

I did it last year, dropped a stone in 4 days, but i craved for everything i couldnt have, so had the odd wrong thing here and the other wrong thing there. I soon i put it all back on.

You try having a fry up every day and meat meat meat...after a while you just feel like a big fatty meaty mess lol...you need a bit of fruit

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2011, 06:51:48 pm »
The main, biggest point about the Atkins is that you arent allowed ANY! carbohydrates.



LWC

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Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2011, 07:02:32 pm »
Can i ask how much this guy charged you mate for this info?

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2011, 07:14:33 pm »
Nothing mate.

If I choose to use the gym facilities they are free as well so long as my time spent there is under the tutelage of the guy I saw today. In the gym he designs some sort of workout programme for me. So in that regard he is a personal trainer, dietician etc.

For that its £30 an hour.

tom2009

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2011, 07:17:34 pm »
Nothing mate.

If I choose to use the gym facilities they are free as well so long as my time spent there is under the tutelage of the guy I saw today. In the gym he designs some sort of workout programme for me. So in that regard he is a personal trainer, dietician etc.

For that its £30 an hour.
just watch he doesn't insist you wear tight fitting lycra shorts.

LWC

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Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2011, 07:17:52 pm »
Hows he making any money?

Rogue Trader

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Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 07:17:56 pm »
That is actually very good advice,

Fruit is full of sugar yes it is fructose but your body still deals with it in the same way as processed sugar - it ferments inside you gets stored as fat and is acidic to your system.

Saturated fat historically has been seen as the bad guy but new research actually says that is not as bad as we all have thought - example people dont eat animal fats but eat hydrogenated (trans) fats on a dailt basis without even realising it. (these are banned in scandinavia) - Pop out and get some lard. - seriously.

Caffeine is a terrible drug

Atkins is rubbish but also so are most carbohydrates , we eat far too much carbs and that is why we are all getting fatter and fatter , good carbs = most grains and vegetables.

All good advice that we should all adopt.

Now i am off to get a lager from the fridge. ;D

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 07:19:28 pm »
Hows he making any money?

£30 an hour in the gym I guess. I only had an assessemnt today.

Kate2

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2011, 07:23:18 pm »
Yep havent eaten carbs for 10 years.  Might have half a slice of bread that will be about it.

They are high energy input that needs to be burnt off, maybe slow burning foods. Pasta a no no, rice, bread and potatoes they are far to heavy.

If your going to fill up on carbs you need to burn them off.

Its great to have porridge, but as long as you eat nowt from porridge time to maybe 2 in the afternoon.

Fish, chicken, vegetables, salad, stir fries.  Treat for myself is maybe chips once a week from the takeaway

Still got to drop 7lbs though!!!

But however if you are in a physical job you do need carbs, if your not go easy on them


Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2011, 07:24:04 pm »
Saturated fat historically has been seen as the bad guy but new research actually says that is not as bad as we all have thought - example people dont eat animal fats but eat hydrogenated (trans) fats on a dailt basis without even realising it. (these are banned in scandinavia) - Pop out and get some lard. - seriously.

He did allude to something along those lines today.

Stating that obesity levels, despite lower levels of consumed animal fats, have risen, in parallel with increased cabohydrate consumption.

So the problem isnt fat, its carbohydrate, so far as obesity is concerned, but we have all been brainwashed to believe that traditionally the problem lies in the amount of fat we eat.

Kate2

Re: Okay fellas, for those trying to lose weight...........
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2011, 07:27:02 pm »
Matt thats been my theory for 10 years, carbs. If you cant burn them off then eat very little of them.  They are stodgy.  Yea cool one potatoe, but pile the rest of the plate with veg.