Hi Andy, I would say they are achievable but to do it you would have to work hard and get your system "optimised for speed". I am just getting my head around what is needed. Originally, I did not want to work Saturdays, but after the poo weather we have had it has made me rethink. I have also turned work down because the customers requested Saturdays due to security issues etc. So now my idea is to work every other Saturday even if I have had a good full week in nice weather. Get the van system working for me properly, because one of our challenges is physically tiring. My right elbow is killing me for example just now. I am going to get lighter poles and an electric hose reel set up like Lee's and Slumps. This will allow me to do more jobs in the same amount of time. Very importantly you have to value your work. This means pricing it right. I have a minimum charge for a three bed semi and never go below it. Plus I target larger houses and am doing driveways as well now. there are lot's of WC's earning much more than £60k by the way, they are just more business minded in their approach.