[Crystal-clear]

Ive been using a 17 foot extel for 1 year+

The Cl-X feels better and lighter but for some reason i dont know why i seem to be getting a little bit of muscle strain on my left upper arm (i am right handed).

Its strange cos i know the pole is lighter and better maybe i am pressing hard with the new brush The Super-Lite® Brush Dual-Trim Flocked 15 Degree (this brush i really like)

so the only thing i can think of is that cos its a new brush i might be pressing a bit to hard ,its strange cos i know the extel over 1 year has hammered my right elbow but it seems i have become used to the extels weight i or i dont know i am confused i was expecting the cl-x to be a piece of cake but it is not at the moment!

Hopefully ill get used to it.

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

it will feel even better
when all the clamps come unstuck lol

[Crystal-clear]

they r getting a bit lose and the pole is twisting a little bit but i just tightened them up seems ok at the mo but the base cap is loose , ill call them about that but im more concerned about the strange strain i am getting with a lighter pole 

[Matthew JN]

Its the brush m8, i use the same one - supalite flocked - but it is because they have more resistance against the glass - but they do clean well.

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

no m8 im just aving u at it
gud poles excellent brush the clamps r
crap though phone gardiners they will send u
sum glue out 

[Lee GLS]

i have never used an extel, how goes the clx compare for rigidity? what brush did you use before?

I have a clx 27, i really like it, but my brother has the 22 which feels so much lighter, by the 27's extra length is very handy, i might go for a slx 25 next year as it weighs the same as the clx 22 but has the extra few foot reach

[steve k]

1 month with it and brush head is always twisting loose, base cap has never stayed on and extended one section and it just came straight off the end!!

[Crystal-clear]

It does feel ALOT better then the extel i just dont get why i get a bit strained cos it is lighter, as matt said it must be the brush i guess ill get used to it.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Ive been using a 17 foot extel for 1 year+

The Cl-X feels better and lighter but for some reason i dont know why i seem to be getting a little bit of muscle strain on my left upper arm (i am right handed).

Its strange cos i know the pole is lighter and better maybe i am pressing hard with the new brush The Super-Lite® Brush Dual-Trim Flocked 15 Degree (this brush i really like)

so the only thing i can think of is that cos its a new brush i might be pressing a bit to hard ,its strange cos i know the extel over 1 year has hammered my right elbow but it seems i have become used to the extels weight i or i dont know i am confused i was expecting the cl-x to be a piece of cake but it is not at the moment!

Hopefully ill get used to it.

I reckon you are over compensating because you are used to the weight of the old pole & brush creating the pressure on the glass.

You have to re-train your brain ( & it doesn't feel natural to begin with) not to press so hard. Really, try it, hold the pole with a light grip & let the brush do the work, you don't have to squash it on to the glass. I went through the same thing when I first changed to superlite brushes from Vikans.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Any carbon/hybrid/glass pole is wearing through friction from day one. I find them better once the top coat has worn a bit, less resistance.

The gardiner lateral clamps are adjusted by finger & you are constantly opening & closing them all day. Nipping the odd clamp up on a daily basis is quite normal & not to be viewed as something wrong.

Once you get used to the lateral clamp I'm sure you'll not want to go back to conventional ones.

I'm right handed & I position my clamps with the lever ends pointing upwards & on the left had side (viewed when pole is horizontal)

[Crystal-clear]

Ive been using a 17 foot extel for 1 year+

The Cl-X feels better and lighter but for some reason i dont know why i seem to be getting a little bit of muscle strain on my left upper arm (i am right handed).

Its strange cos i know the pole is lighter and better maybe i am pressing hard with the new brush The Super-Lite® Brush Dual-Trim Flocked 15 Degree (this brush i really like)

so the only thing i can think of is that cos its a new brush i might be pressing a bit to hard ,its strange cos i know the extel over 1 year has hammered my right elbow but it seems i have become used to the extels weight i or i dont know i am confused i was expecting the cl-x to be a piece of cake but it is not at the moment!

Hopefully ill get used to it.

I reckon you are over compensating because you are used to the weight of the old pole & brush creating the pressure on the glass.

You have to re-train your brain ( & it doesn't feel natural to begin with) not to press so hard. Really, try it, hold the pole with a light grip & let the brush do the work, you don't have to squash it on to the glass. I went through the same thing when I first changed to superlite brushes from Vikans.

Cheers i think this sounds right, but i seem to want to press the brush so the bristles become flat if you know what i mean?

It looks cool but im pressing like mad lol maybe i should stop this!

[mileslake]

Don't worry you will have a 2 day rest waiting for the clamp glue to arrive.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Ive been using a 17 foot extel for 1 year+

The Cl-X feels better and lighter but for some reason i dont know why i seem to be getting a little bit of muscle strain on my left upper arm (i am right handed).

Its strange cos i know the pole is lighter and better maybe i am pressing hard with the new brush The Super-Lite® Brush Dual-Trim Flocked 15 Degree (this brush i really like)

so the only thing i can think of is that cos its a new brush i might be pressing a bit to hard ,its strange cos i know the extel over 1 year has hammered my right elbow but it seems i have become used to the extels weight i or i dont know i am confused i was expecting the cl-x to be a piece of cake but it is not at the moment!

Hopefully ill get used to it.

I reckon you are over compensating because you are used to the weight of the old pole & brush creating the pressure on the glass.

You have to re-train your brain ( & it doesn't feel natural to begin with) not to press so hard. Really, try it, hold the pole with a light grip & let the brush do the work, you don't have to squash it on to the glass. I went through the same thing when I first changed to superlite brushes from Vikans.

Cheers i think this sounds right, but i seem to want to press the brush so the bristles become flat if you know what i mean?

It looks cool but im pressing like mad lol maybe i should stop this!

Yep, give it a go.

As for the clamp glue issue. Personally I've not had any problems but my glue is the 2 part epoxy resin that gardiners sell. I upgraded my original clamps on my slx for the new style ones. I suspect the factory glue might be different, I don't know but if I were you I would go to halfords or somewhere & just buy a tube of the said glue. It's a few quid but will save you any downtime in the event that you do have a clamp come unstuck.

[suds window service]

not impressed with my clx head spins clamps broke its a shame really as if Ive said it once Ive said it a few times this pole could potentially be a world beater.

i have an slx  and that is fantastic apart from the clamp i had to glue lol

[suds window service]

not impressed with my clx head spins clamps broke its a shame really as if Ive said it once Ive said it a few times this pole could potentially be a world beater.

i have an slx  and that is fantastic apart from the clamp i had to glue lol

i know my quotes sound harsh. however the next pole i buy will be from the same company.
why? there's nothing out there on the market better, there's no company out there trying to improve the weight and price of poles.
in the end i believe the build quality will improve through trial and error, i will keep trailing them no problem.
 the problems are easiley fixed maybe i should of reported them?

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

yes suds u should m8
but do believe gardiners slx is the best on the market
iv worked wiv my m8s an can say
its the best pole for the money
 

[Mike #1]

its areal shame that pole is a let down , But one thing to bare in mind is the company who are manufacturing the poles must not be gluing them properly not gardiners unless gardiners are putting clamps in place , when i worked in factory making sofas you were supposed to glue and staple the frame together there was loads of times some lads but a tiny amount of glue on or not at all once things are in place  and covered you cant check if the build has been done as it should be ,  I will be buying an clx next year though

[ian1972]

For the coin u can't knock the clx cheap cheerful decent pole however the slx is in a class of it's own and if u can afford it go for the slx maybe with a clx as a backup pole,I have both 

[Alex Allen]

Ive been using a 17 foot extel for 1 year+

The Cl-X feels better and lighter but for some reason i dont know why i seem to be getting a little bit of muscle strain on my left upper arm (i am right handed).

Its strange cos i know the pole is lighter and better maybe i am pressing hard with the new brush The Super-Lite® Brush Dual-Trim Flocked 15 Degree (this brush i really like)

so the only thing i can think of is that cos its a new brush i might be pressing a bit to hard ,its strange cos i know the extel over 1 year has hammered my right elbow but it seems i have become used to the extels weight i or i dont know i am confused i was expecting the cl-x to be a piece of cake but it is not at the moment!

Hopefully ill get used to it.

the brush is no good, hard work
either put a vikan on, not recommending you do that now, but it is better than the superlight
the aerial brush is the king of window cleaning brushes
until you try it you will never know how much easier and quiker wfp is

[Richard Neal]

I use the clx 22, within the first week 3 clamps were off ( i have now had to re glue them all) the end cap needs re glueing and after 3 months heavy use 2 of the sections keep coming out to far and falling apart, would still say its a good pole for less that £150 delivered! i will be trying a larger slx next time just to compare.