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Perfect Windows

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 pm »
Hi all :)

Im planning on doing a big leaflet drop of 30,000 soon, i will be getting the local free paper to do it they have quoted me £520 including vat does this sound a fair price??

Also what sort of return can i expect ??

Any advice from people that have done a large drop like this much appreciated :)

My returns from 2x7,500 drops in June and July were about 0.45%

My return from a 42,000 drop in October was 0.13%

Timing is crucial.

Vin

Stewart01

Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2010, 08:55:39 pm »
I dont like this method, as stated above the round would be to scattered and also you could have problem properties i.e daytime access etc which i would deliberately miss out when out canvassing, whats wrong with just delivering them yourself and then following it up??

I posted 2500 leaflets over the last 5 months which have given me almost 140 new custies in that same amount of time, ive been able to pick the estates i want and have kept the round very tite and all work flows from area to area with minimal travel time. ;D ;D ;D

I think mass leaflet drops in this business are a false economy as is yell.com etc, you need to get out there pounding the streets to acheive real results.


Getting 140 new customers out of 2500 leaflets is an amazing result isn't it?
I think so, baring in mind window cleaning isn't all I do and I haven't actually knocked on a single door!!

SB Cleaning

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2010, 09:34:22 am »
Thanks for all the comments guys, im going to take some of the advice given and wait till the start of april to do the drop, then im going to do another in July/august, if i only get 30 extra customers then at least its 30 more than i have now!!! :)

I will let you all know how i get on with it ;)

KLEENAWAY

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2010, 10:02:15 am »
SB cleaning can i be nosey mate and ask how much you paid for 30,000 leaflets?

Danny

Perfect Windows

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2010, 11:08:49 am »
SB cleaning can i be nosey mate and ask how much you paid for 30,000 leaflets?

Danny

You can get all sorts of quotes for big runs of leaflets, but 50,000 of mine, which are full-colour  A4 folded twice to DL envelope size on 130gsm paper cost £1,300 (Edited from mistaken £1,700).  So 2.5p each roughly.  Add on 2p delivery and you can see that 4.5p gets you a leaflet through a door.  If 0.4% respond and take you on, you can see that the cost per customer is 4.5 / 0.0044 = £10.20 per customer.  If 0.13% respond it's £35 per customer.

My mean average clean price is just over £20, so even my October leaflets pay themselves off with two cleans, which is fine with me.  My June ones at £10.20 were a steal.

As regards how widespread my customers are, I have a map on my wall with a pin for each customer.  They were initially all over the place but now they are turning into clusters of pins as people see me working or I get recommended to neighbours.  If you're in it for the long-term and you want to grow, the initial pain will pay off.

Vin

SB Cleaning

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2010, 11:47:39 am »
SB cleaning can i be nosey mate and ask how much you paid for 30,000 leaflets?

Danny
I havent bought them yet, but have used this company on smaller orders, been quoted A5 double sided 135 gsm £386 including vat and delivery :)

KLEENAWAY

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2010, 12:13:06 pm »
How many leaflets for £386 do you get mate?

Danny

SB Cleaning

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2010, 12:30:05 pm »
How many leaflets for £386 do you get mate?

Danny
Thats the quote i had for the 30k mate.

KLEENAWAY

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2010, 01:00:03 pm »
Bloody hell thats a good price  :o

Danny

Crystal-clear

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2010, 02:48:30 pm »
Those are good return rates who would you recommend to use for the drop (london)

Jack Wallace

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2010, 04:22:11 pm »
Hi all :)

Im planning on doing a big leaflet drop of 30,000 soon, i will be getting the local free paper to do it they have quoted me £520 including vat does this sound a fair price??

Also what sort of return can i expect ??

Any advice from people that have done a large drop like this much appreciated :)
I once put out 5000 flyers with a free paper, it was a waste of money.

I am friends on facebook with the owner of another free mag which I have advertised in with not great results.
Just recently she asked on facebook if people were getting their magazines delivered, I was amazed at how many folk said no. some had not had one for months.

wpclean

Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2010, 04:50:17 pm »
Hi all :)

Im planning on doing a big leaflet drop of 30,000 soon, i will be getting the local free paper to do it they have quoted me £520 including vat does this sound a fair price??

Also what sort of return can i expect ??

Any advice from people that have done a large drop like this much appreciated :)
I once put out 5000 flyers with a free paper, it was a waste of money.

I am friends on facebook with the owner of another free mag which I have advertised in with not great results.
Just recently she asked on facebook if people were getting their magazines delivered, I was amazed at how many folk said no. some had not had one for months.
Funny you should mention that as I was thinking of doing similar, has a circulation of 60,000 and is delivered by Royal mail !

krave

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2010, 06:01:49 pm »
SB cleaning can i be nosey mate and ask how much you paid for 30,000 leaflets?

Danny
I havent bought them yet, but have used this company on smaller orders, been quoted A5 double sided 135 gsm £386 including vat and delivery :)

Check quinns the printers .
you will save £100 on that order.

Cheapest printer I have found, with amazing quality and turn around.

Ola Normann

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2010, 08:15:33 pm »
I have also been a bit afraid that things will not be delivered out.

That`s why I will have a interview with some from Lithuania next week.
Where I will give them out phones with live GPS tracking that shows where they are, and where they have been.
Sorry, but I will not pay some that I do not trust that it will be deliverd.

I will order about 50K-85K designed "post-it notes" that will be put on every door.

If they will do a good job, I will use them regular for this kind for job.

JoeMax

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2010, 03:29:22 am »
Also mention to them that you will be door knocking all the houses on the streets a week later as a follow up to the leaflet - then they'll know they'll be found out if they miss a few here and there.

Paul Coleman

Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2010, 05:07:31 am »
A question on this leaflets drop :)

Where I live we really get much flyers in our post box.

Thats why I want to hire someone to put out designed "post-it stickers" on every door.
I would imagine that it would be a much better way of getting more cust.?
And that it would be seen much more then.

I`m thinking of ordering 50.000 self designed "post-it" stickers, and get some to go out in January with this. And start all over again in March. Just by a moped that they can use.

What would be a good price for them to get for say every 100 house? anyone?

If your post-it stickers are what I think they are then I reckon that's a very bad idea - but maybe I am misunderstanding what they are.
Do you mean you stick a note on the outside of their front doors?
If so, you are creating a security risk.
I already have an issue when leaflet droppers don't push the leaflets all the way through the letter box.  To someone looking to do a break-in, seeing stuff poking out of the letter box for several days is a great way of telling them the householder is away.  A post-it sticker (if I've understood correctly), would be even more blatant.
Anyone posting such a thing on my door would not only not get my business, they would get a phone call from me too.  It's even possible I would phone the old bill to see you.  Not to arrest you of course as you haven't broken any laws.  Simply to advise you about security risks at people's houses.
Not having a go at you.
Just asking you to use a little empathy.

JoeMax

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2010, 05:58:41 am »
Off with his head for putting a sticky note on someones door!  :P

I have an American friend in a similar business and he uses 'door hangers', a card leaflet that hangs from the door numpty. He says the response from this is incredible - I do have examples and figures somewhere.

windowcleaninginessex.co.uk

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Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2010, 06:07:57 am »
A question on this leaflets drop :)

Where I live we really get much flyers in our post box.

Thats why I want to hire someone to put out designed "post-it stickers" on every door.
I would imagine that it would be a much better way of getting more cust.?
And that it would be seen much more then.

I`m thinking of ordering 50.000 self designed "post-it" stickers, and get some to go out in January with this. And start all over again in March. Just by a moped that they can use.

What would be a good price for them to get for say every 100 house? anyone?

If your post-it stickers are what I think they are then I reckon that's a very bad idea - but maybe I am misunderstanding what they are.
Do you mean you stick a note on the outside of their front doors?
If so, you are creating a security risk.
I already have an issue when leaflet droppers don't push the leaflets all the way through the letter box.  To someone looking to do a break-in, seeing stuff poking out of the letter box for several days is a great way of telling them the householder is away.  A post-it sticker (if I've understood correctly), would be even more blatant.
Anyone posting such a thing on my door would not only not get my business, they would get a phone call from me too.  It's even possible I would phone the old bill to see you.  Not to arrest you of course as you haven't broken any laws.  Simply to advise you about security risks at people's houses.
Not having a go at you.
Just asking you to use a little empathy.
I am with you on that one, I used to get things like the  betterware catologue, avon book etc left at my house. Always asking you to leave it outside you door 3 or 4 days later and they will pick it up. Not me I used to throw them in the bin if I was not in when the day came they were collecting them,
Point is, If I left them outside I would have told the whole world there is no one home, you sticking something to someone's door tells the whole world they are not in.
If i was you I would think about a leaflet that goes through the letter box, I do use leaflets myself, but I get fed up when I get them put through my door, but if someone stuck it to my door that would really annoy me and I would phone to complain to them
Darren
---THE BEST YOU CAN GET---
www.windowcleaninginessex.co.uk

Paul Coleman

Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2010, 06:44:08 am »
Off with his head for putting a sticky note on someones door!  :P

I have an American friend in a similar business and he uses 'door hangers', a card leaflet that hangs from the door numpty. He says the response from this is incredible - I do have examples and figures somewhere.

Well, capital punishment would be a bit extreme  ;D .

I do stand by what I say about the security risk aspect of it though.

Perhaps it might be a bit different in America.  After all, if there was a strong likelihood of householders owning guns, I reckon that breaking in would be a risky business even with a leaflet or hanger stuck on the door.  I wouldn't put it past a few nuttier householders to leave them there just so they could have some shooting practice  ;D

g newton

Re: Leaflet drop
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2010, 04:51:35 pm »
ive just started out and am delivering my leaflets myself by hand and at present only hitting bungelows but the village im doing has streets and streets of them so all the leaflets are in close proximity short gardens etc
im doing around 500 / day at a leisurely pace working from about 9 to 4

been doing for a week so done about 2500 and so far got 11 customers in a week which i didnt think was a bad return especially this time of year