[james stanley]

Hi all, i have a cold water system from brodex which i am more than happy with, however i am thinking of adding on isothermal diesel heater to enable me working with hot pure water. would this help me working in the winter? or is it just a gimmick? going to cost 2400 quid from pure freedom, plus about 6 quid a day in diesel.
Should i spend or just stick to cold water window cleaning?

[Steve CM]

i have one and would say 'get it' having another system in my other van that is cold i have seen the benefits in just 2 weeks. the hot system has worked everyday and my cold system has sat on my drive frozen

It doesn't cost £6 a day either in diesel

[lyndy]

Is that the fitted price £2400?

[james stanley]

yes with a frame too

[d s windowcleaning]

i have one and would say 'get it' having another system in my other van that is cold i have seen the benefits in just 2 weeks. the hot system has worked everyday and my cold system has sat on my drive frozen

It doesn't cost £6 a day either in diesel

steve if uve 2 foot of snow either side of the road and cars not been moved for nearly a week , you cant get parked up anywhere to do the work , what benifits dos your hot water system have then ?

[james stanley]

does the hot water system not freeze on the glass then? steve?

[david washbrook]

james

what size heater is that for as i thought it was 3k fitted for the 9.2 kw maybe youve bin quoted for the 5.2kw

just wondering as this is sumthing im seriously thinking of

thanks
dave

[Stewart01]

I have to say from all the talk of hot systems over the last 2week I'm not sold? The snow we've had in notts would have required big foot to transport the heater to the jobs! The temperature for me has only beeb 25% of the problem, obviously the guys who have panicked and got 1 have to say there great, but unless there any good at moving 2ft of snow what's the point? To me the obvious answer is to realise that if this is how the winters are going to be simply set more aside through the year to compansate instead of blowing your earnings on the latest bit of nonesense? I've seen posts on here from people who bought l5 3-4 month ago in preperation for the winter and are now having problems with them 1 week into what looks like a really bad winter, iv got enough gear to worry about and maintain without adding to it.

[james stanley]

hi dave , yes it is the 5kw heater i was quoted for 2400 fitted. as i work on my own they told me at pure freedom i would only need the 5kw heater. not sure i will bother though cuz it costs about 6 quid a day to use with the diesel usage and is it worth it anyway, as app hot water freezes up anyway, true or not?

[david washbrook]

im led to belive that hot is also better in the summer as well as winter

[david washbrook]

james

i think its the 9.2kw on full power that uses about 1ltr an hour also i thought the 5kw would only get the water warm and not hot but i could be wrong

dave

[d s windowcleaning]

I have to say from all the talk of hot systems over the last 2week I'm not sold? The snow we've had in notts would have required big foot to transport the heater to the jobs! The temperature for me has only beeb 25% of the problem, obviously the guys who have panicked and got 1 have to say there great, but unless there any good at moving 2ft of snow what's the point? To me the obvious answer is to realise that if this is how the winters are going to be simply set more aside through the year to compansate instead of blowing your earnings on the latest bit of nonesense? I've seen posts on here from people who bought l5 3-4 month ago in preperation for the winter and are now having problems with them 1 week into what looks like a really bad winter, iv got enough gear to worry about and maintain without adding to it.

i couldnt have worded it better .

[james stanley]

they told me at pure freedom that the 5kw produces hot water but only good enough for 1 person, unless i misunderstood them?  I know the hot water cleans better than cold but is it worth spending 2400 just to clean the windows better? or would this really help with the present arctic conditions?  sick of the sight of jeremy kyle now! need to get out there!

[david washbrook]

james
i hope your right as this would save me £600 as i work on my own and only require a 1 man set up
think i will call them tomorrow and ask again

and imo i think hot would be beter all round  thats just my personnel oponion

dave

[mikecam]

as app hot water freezes up anyway, true or not?

Not true. Hot water does not freeze. Water at a minus temperate freezes. I sometimes wonder if some of you went to school.

[Stewart01]

I'm sure hot would work a lot better on first cleans conny roofs etc but I'm 100% happy with the results I get with abit of tfr a £1.99 bottle of upvc restorer and cold pure water and so are my customers so £2000 for hot water?? Really??

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

as app hot water freezes up anyway, true or not?

Not true. Hot water does not freeze. Water at a minus temperate freezes. I sometimes wonder if some of you went to school.

tidy mike 

[coppershed]

Clean my own house today 2pm with hot wfp, after 10 minute the windows all froze up. I will be back to cold water tomorrow.

[d s windowcleaning]

they told me at pure freedom that the 5kw produces hot water but only good enough for 1 person, unless i misunderstood them?  I know the hot water cleans better than cold but is it worth spending 2400 just to clean the windows better? or would this really help with the present arctic conditions?  sick of the sight of jeremy kyle now! need to get out there!

what is the reason you are watching jeremy kyle ?  is hot water going to stop you watching jeremy ?

[mikecam]

Clean my own house today 2pm with hot wfp, after 10 minute the windows all froze up. I will be back to cold water tomorrow.

I cleaned mine today trad, with cold water. The excess i hadn't scraped off the sills froze. The windows where fine though. But when you're cleaning in sub zero temps what you need to be looking at is not how long it takes water to freeze on the glass or sills (because that is what it will do) your concern operating WFP is going to be if it freezes on the brush head? With hot water it won't. If you're operating cold in sub zero temps it will freeze.