[AuRavelling79]

Probably will do next week.

What's the odds this time next week you'll be on here complaining that your van won't thaw out?

Come on Roger, get out this weekend and get the necessary to keep your water warm enough!

[Klean07]

Good to hear everyones back at work today even you Squeek.

[Tom White]

After my early morning job I headed back out and my pole hose had frozen up; the cnut!

So, after a brief period of fannying-about trying to get it to work, it was ladders off and we cracked on.  I missed any dodgy or awkward windows and reduced the price accordingly.  By the afternoon my pole hose had thawed and we worked on as normal; leaving grit down in the necessary places.

I've five barrels against the radiator, battery charging, and anything that can freeze taken inside.

Tomorrow, one-way-or-another, will be a good day.

Squeaks, get that ladder, then at least while you're waiting for your van to thaw out (I assume you leave it running with the heaters on?), you can be working.  There's always time for 'making love to yourself' AFTER you finish working.

Why lose another day while you're waiting for the inevitable?  This could go on for another two-months for all we know.

[Sir Squeaky]

Probably will do next week.

What's the odds this time next week you'll be on here complaining that your van won't thaw out?

Come on Roger, get out this weekend and get the necessary to keep your water warm enough!

Why would I be complaining about that? No different to this week if it happens.

And how am I supposed to stop 400kg of water freezing?
Carry it up to my house on my head? Give it a kiss and tuck it into bed?

I really don't care mate, I'm doing fine.

[Sir Squeaky]

(I assume you leave it running with the heaters on?), you can be working.  There's always time for 'making love to yourself' AFTER you finish working.

And how's that going to thaw the back brainstrain?
It's done with a heater plugged into the house.

It gets worse...:
And don't try and patronise someone who's been in this game longer than you.

[Tom White]

Sorry, I'm just trying to help, Squeaky. 

You're a bit grumpy bollox this evening! 

But did you actually get the ladder?  That is a bit different from saying you were going to get the ladder.

[Sir Squeaky]

Sorry, I'm just trying to help, Squeaky. 

You're a bit grumpy bollox this evening! 

Well I'm sorry I snapped, but I'm sick of switching this on to find a lot of patronising comments towards me.
Not just from you, but other people who don't even know me and listen to rubbish you write about me.
Most of which are probably struggling, when I'm not.

Yes I've got a ladder, but even though I said I was, you assumed I wouldn't and try to get others telling me what to do.

[Ross G]

HI HO        HI HO  .......



first day back, bloody knackered had to record Jeremy Kyle

[Tom White]

And how am I supposed to stop 400kg of water freezing?

Right, how long does it take to fill your tank in your van from empty?  My thoughts would go like this...

1.  Someone on the forum has put a 3kw(?) heater in their van tank; now I'm sure you could do the same with your IBC static tank in your back garden.

2.  You leave your van tank empty, even if it means just 'peeing' all the water in there out; I'm sure you can work out a method how to get rid of it.  You also drain any hoses. 

3.  You fill up in the morning with the 'warm' water from your IBC, with just enough water for you to work with, and at the end of each day you ensure it's all left empty of water.

Would that work?

[AuRavelling79]

Hang on Rog! If you've got leccy to your van then why don't you put an oilfilled rad in it to warm everything up and a pond heater in the filler hole of your tank?

Cheap as chips - well £50 would cover both.

[Tom White]

Hang on Rog! If you've got leccy to your van then why don't you put an oilfilled rad in it to warm everything up and a pond heater in the filler hole of your tank?

Cheap as chips - well £50 would cover both.

Where Rog parks, he couldn't leave an extension cable out overnight.

[AuRavelling79]

Hang on Rog! If you've got leccy to your van then why don't you put an oilfilled rad in it to warm everything up and a pond heater in the filler hole of your tank?

Cheap as chips - well £50 would cover both.

Where Rog parks, he couldn't leave an extension cable out overnight.

Why? And how does he fill his van then?

[Sir Squeaky]

And how am I supposed to stop 400kg of water freezing?

Right, how long does it take to fill your tank in your van from empty?  My thoughts would go like this...

1.  Someone on the forum has put a 3kw(?) heater in their van tank; now I'm sure you could do the same with your IBC static tank in your back garden.

2.  You leave your van tank empty, even if it means just 'peeing' all the water in there out; I'm sure you can work out a method how to get rid of it.  You also drain any hoses. 

3.  You fill up in the morning with the 'warm' water from your IBC, with just enough water for you to work with, and at the end of each day you ensure it's all left empty of water.

Would that work?

That's far too much bother just to start an hour earlier. Like I said...I know what I'm doing...I'm fine.

[Klean07]

 I refilled my empty van tank this evening from my garden ibc tank all done in 4 minutes. No probs.

[[GQC] Tim]

Van tank so frozen sounds like a bag of bricks, all pipes in van frozen, all connectors frozen, all hosereels froze, garage frozen, 25litre containers frozen solid, trolley battery and charger knackered, outside tap frozen, mains feed hose and connectors frozen, waste pipe and connectors frozen, RO looks like frozen .

Still, on the bright side it's gonna be minus 9 here tonite with a real feel of minus 13!

I've had heater in the van, heater in the garage, lagging round the outside tap....but obviously not enough...

Suggestions for alternative employment?  It's getting decidedly chilly

Still trying to figure out where exactly this went from a Pj topic to a Squeeky topic. Oh well.

What I don't understand from Pj's original reply is how he managed to get it all frozen up even with a heater in the van, surely there is something wrong with the heater, or not powerful enough?

The only time it wasn't enough for me was with just a tube heater. Now have a thermostat controlled van heater, which circulates the air and never a problem, this was even down to -11. No problems. There must have been an error somewhere, either heater failed or operator error.

[Matthew Bateman]

Squeaky how far from your back door is your 400 litre water tank?

[Sir Squeaky]

Why are you still talking about me?
I don't need any help with anything. If I did I'd ask...........a group of people who knew more than me.

Someone's already said it was PJ's thread...

[Jeff Brimble]

And how am I supposed to stop 400kg of water freezing?

Right, how long does it take to fill your tank in your van from empty?  My thoughts would go like this...

1.  Someone on the forum has put a 3kw(?) heater in their van tank; now I'm sure you could do the same with your IBC static tank in your back garden.

2.  You leave your van tank empty, even if it means just 'peeing' all the water in there out; I'm sure you can work out a method how to get rid of it.  You also drain any hoses. 

3.  You fill up in the morning with the 'warm' water from your IBC, with just enough water for you to work with, and at the end of each day you ensure it's all left empty of water.

Would that work?

Putting heat into anything is expensive-Treat it like your house and insulate it. When its empty lift it on 18" blocks and stick a small rad under it, then box it in with building insulating board. Mine has been  running at 7 degrees.

[Matthew Bateman]

Squeaky I was just asking. Just trying to help you out. I guess I should have thought of the time last year when Ian Giles refused you the use of his water and I offered to stump up the cash to sort you out.  


Anyway, You dont ask for help you just come on here and moan and ignore all the suggestions with dismissive comments. Im sure you're a nice guy really, but you dont half come across as a total cnut (to yourself) on here.

No wonder Tosh sees you as easy game.

[Sir Squeaky]

Squeaky I was just asking. Just trying to help you out. I guess I should have thought of the time last year when Ian Giles refused you the use of his water and I offered to stump up the cash to sort you out.  


Anyway, You dont ask for help you just come on here and moan and ignore all the suggestions with dismissive comments. Im sure you're a nice guy really, but you dont half come across as a total cnut (to yourself) on here.

No wonder Tosh sees you as easy game.

Appreciate the help if I needed help Matt, but I don't. And I don't know why people think I do. I'm probably doing better than half of them!

I don't care that it's cold. I'm fine for work. I have no worries.
Lets talk about someone else shall we...?