[ant french]

anyone here use a pole to do upstairs windows, i cant seem to be able to do upstairs with a pole. dont fancy going up ladders coz im scared of heights  i always seem to get major lines down the glass, but down stairs there always great. anyone got any techniques i can try to stop this?? 

[darren clarke]

go wfp

[formb]

After you squeegee the windows hang a scrim over the squeegee and rub.

[ant french]

go wfp

im not rich yet lol i will once i got a bigger custy base but i only have a few, trust me to pick custys who have lead windows  aswell there a bloomin nightmare  took me 10 mins to do one window today, i wanna soooo drop them but i cant coz shes my first ever custy and shes a mate  :

[lee09]

You may as well just drop her or get over your fear of ladders.
Leaded windows cannot to done cost effectively from the ground with trad tools.
If you take work on like this you need the tools for the job.
A fear of heights and working for mates (ok I know its mainly for practice) maybe too cheaply means you will be bored and frustrated before you've really got going.
Is there really no way you could run to a back pack?
All the best though.
Lee

[darren clarke]

anyone here use a pole to do upstairs windows, i cant seem to be able to do upstairs with a pole. dont fancy going up ladders coz im scared of heights i always seem to get major lines down the glass, but down stairs there always great. anyone got any techniques i can try to stop this??

this was one of the reason i went wfp,  thoguth whislt i am spending time getting the tops perfect with a pole,  could be on next one with wfp,   wfp systems are cheap,  buy second hand,   my mate just sold a full 250 ltr system for about 430 on ebay

[woody1]

if your scared off heights give up now unless you buy wfp you cant clean upper windows from the ground as good you have to get up the ladder or they will start dropping you
custys pay for you to clean there windows not do a half job mate thats why when some change over to wfp they have problems with custys over spotting

all im saying if you cant do it properly dont do the job

[Rob Knapman]

A window cleaner scared of heights, whatever next :. As previously stated either change of career or wfp.

[ant french]

looks like i gotta start saving for wfp then dont it. :

[wpclean]

If you are serious about window cleaning then go wfp even if its for using just upstairs !

It is safer and you can get additional work by offering to clean frames and doing work that is higher and unsafe for ladders.

I have gained some good new work by offering the above.

[ant french]

thing i worry bout is wont it leave lines or marks on the glass, not many people will like me leaving thre homes with soaking wet glass will they lol 

[wpclean]

Just ask if ayone on here is near to you and do a day with them 

[erithwc]

you could buy a wfp system for around £200 but to be honest unless you take things serous you won't stand a chance against the other window cleaners in your area, using a pole & squeegee to clean leaded windows is just plain stupid you need to get a ladder or wfp system,

 i don't mean to be rude but come on is this another window cleaner having a laugh under a different user id 

[ant french]

nah not diff id or wc, just learning not been at it long

[bobby p]

im trad ,only been going just over 2 years solid and iv plenty of the leaded on my round. what you want to get is an unger fixi clamp ,put a rolled up scrim in its jaws and after you have mopped the window, use the fixi clamp+scrim  on your pole to buff the glass. i  reinforced the back of the fixi clamps jaws with a slice of an old plastic chopping board to make it stronger

 have you got a ladder yet ?   what make is it ?

[Stewart01]

thing i worry bout is wont it leave lines or marks on the glass, not many people will like me leaving thre homes with soaking wet glass will they lol

Ant its tried and tested, the bulk of folk will be at work when you call anyway so by the time there home the windows are dry, aslong as you explain why your leaving the windows wet most folk are ok, ive been wfp from the start and some people are unsure if they havent come across it before but once they see the end result there fine!! Alot of the worries and concerns your having while starting up would be eliminated if you got yourself a decent trolley/back pack and brush as it makes life loads easier in so many ways!!

Regards
Stewart

[Jackal]

if your starting out from scratch you are better off buying a wfp trolly and do the upstairs with that and trad downs so at least you can get used to a squeeqee aswell,i would do that,im 100% trad but if i go wfp iv got go through the mither of explaining it to custys but its easier for you if you start building your round like that

[Johnny B]

I am 100% trad.

Using ladders obviously has its risks, but are alright if used properly, and you take your time in positioning it the prescribed angle (1 in 4) and you don't try to use it on surfaces which can cause it to slide (ie mossy flagstones or wet decking to name but two).

As you have a fear of heights, though, I would not recommend you use ladders, but use a trad pole where possible or go WFP.

Hope you do well,
John.  

 
 

[Jackal]

forgot say i was scared of heights,but when i started up i knew i didnt want to work for someone anymore so just got on with it,and heights arnt a problem anymore,but if you dont feel safe on a ladder dont use them,i didnt no about wfp at the time or i would of proberly gone in to it when i first started

[ant french]

im trad ,only been going just over 2 years solid and iv plenty of the leaded on my round. what you want to get is an unger fixi clamp ,put a rolled up scrim in its jaws and after you have mopped the window, use the fixi clamp+scrim  on your pole to buff the glass. i  reinforced the back of the fixi clamps jaws with a slice of an old plastic chopping board to make it stronger

 have you got a ladder yet ?   what make is it ?

not got a ladder yet, i just dont feel safe going up them so i guess wfp is the way to go on these homes, theres a few ppl who have these homes and not many wc seem to do them. im sure i could find the best way to get these jobs and clean them and looks like wfp is the way to go.