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Thankyou for your input, I will call back all the trolleys sold thus far to many happy clients, and cease selling them straight away based on the critisism of somebody that has not used one, ill even tell the person who has just orderd their shiny new yellow one which is their 2nd trolley after using their first one for the last six months happily!!!!!!!
And based on the loss of you ever purchasing one from us i'll put my bank manager on allert.Once again thankyou so much for saving us here at CT(EAST)LTD.
you dont really need more than 1 ltr p/m iuse less than that 1mm jets in brush i think gardiners is ok as an add on to van in restricted access areas possibly but as i trolley only user i would'nt swap my PF trolley for gardiners
Craig why would you have to use a trolley to be able to make a comparison......they are trollies that hold varying amounts of water and pump it to a pole to clean some windows.
Quote from: mikecam on November 09, 2010, 07:11:41 pmQuote from: Craig Trevain on November 09, 2010, 12:34:35 pmThe good old chinese crop sprayer trick. Cant beat a bespoke trolley made by window cleaners for window cleaners.Oh i don't know so much, if that top heavy thing of yours costing £499 plus VAT is anything to go by then i'd say yes you can beat 'bespoke'. Give me the Gardiners one for £300 plus VAT . No one with basic physics knowledge would design a small, tall trolley with a 25 litre tank at the top near the handle, mind you you did say it was made by window cleaners !!! Probably not the best sales phrase, even for anyone selling to them Thankyou for your input, I will call back all the trolleys sold thus far to many happy clients, and cease selling them straight away based on the critisism of somebody that has not used one, ill even tell the person who has just orderd their shiny new yellow one which is their 2nd trolley after using their first one for the last six months happily!!!!!!!And based on the loss of you ever purchasing one from us i'll put my bank manager on allert.Once again thankyou so much for saving us here at CT(EAST)LTD.
Quote from: Craig Trevain on November 09, 2010, 12:34:35 pmThe good old chinese crop sprayer trick. Cant beat a bespoke trolley made by window cleaners for window cleaners.Oh i don't know so much, if that top heavy thing of yours costing £499 plus VAT is anything to go by then i'd say yes you can beat 'bespoke'. Give me the Gardiners one for £300 plus VAT . No one with basic physics knowledge would design a small, tall trolley with a 25 litre tank at the top near the handle, mind you you did say it was made by window cleaners !!! Probably not the best sales phrase, even for anyone selling to them
The good old chinese crop sprayer trick. Cant beat a bespoke trolley made by window cleaners for window cleaners.
Also the Engineer who makes our trolley has forty years experience so as goes the basic physics mentioned I think he probarbly knows what his doing!!
Quote from: Craig Trevain on November 10, 2010, 01:20:22 pmAlso the Engineer who makes our trolley has forty years experience so as goes the basic physics mentioned I think he probarbly knows what his doing!!Lets hope so and hope he's done a complete risk assesment too.http://handle-it.com/free_risk_assessment_sack_truck.htmlhttp://sacktrolley.com/http://ezinearticles.com/?Keep-Safe-at-Work---Use-a-Sack-Trolley&id=4063548Just how carrying the load at the top can be justified i've no idea. But if he says its cool........
Quote from: mikecam on November 10, 2010, 03:32:12 pmQuote from: Craig Trevain on November 10, 2010, 01:20:22 pmAlso the Engineer who makes our trolley has forty years experience so as goes the basic physics mentioned I think he probarbly knows what his doing!!Lets hope so and hope he's done a complete risk assesment too.http://handle-it.com/free_risk_assessment_sack_truck.htmlhttp://sacktrolley.com/http://ezinearticles.com/?Keep-Safe-at-Work---Use-a-Sack-Trolley&id=4063548Just how carrying the load at the top can be justified i've no idea. But if he says its cool........Its not A sack barrow you see! and the balance when full is fine, but hey everyone can purchase what ever they like, free choice, and regards to scared of competition no im not, thats why im not patenting everything, Im call about choice and not paranoid.Mike could you run your eye over our survey trolley and advise me on any balance issues there please
Quote from: Craig Trevain on November 10, 2010, 01:20:22 pmAlso the Engineer who makes our trolley has forty years experience so as goes the basic physics mentioned I think he probarbly knows what his doing!!What a shame he didn't have 40 years of design experiance as well......
Quote from: Craig Trevain on November 10, 2010, 07:53:13 pmI see your only up the road, call in you can come and see our top heavy trolley and all our other useless products I never said you had a top heavy trolley or useless products...did i??
I see your only up the road, call in you can come and see our top heavy trolley and all our other useless products
Quote from: dan worgan on November 10, 2010, 08:01:07 pmQuote from: Craig Trevain on November 10, 2010, 07:53:13 pmI see your only up the road, call in you can come and see our top heavy trolley and all our other useless products I never said you had a top heavy trolley or useless products...did i?? That was me who said it was top heavy And it is, any risk assesment would place the load lower down. And if Craig can be an armchair critic, i can too, we all can !!!!
I dared to pass comment on A product with A halo around it , with a sense of sarcasm !!.
Quote from: Craig Trevain on November 10, 2010, 08:44:12 pm I dared to pass comment on A product with A halo around it , with a sense of sarcasm !!.As a supplier yourself you should be acuteley aware of the implications of you passing disparaging remarks about your competitors products. Gardiners trolley may well be a crap chinese import, like the vast majority of backpacks used by us all and the batteries you sell. Your comment about bespoke design could not go unchallenged due to the severe bad design of your own !!! Anyway, you're right about the weight at the end of a pole, mines got two short planks on the end ! I've made no disparaging remarks about any supplier, so not sure what your reading into, my batteries are from Japan, however I have some Chinese kentucky mop buckets, and am looking at bringing in crop spraying back packs, so yes your right on that.