[clearlyclean]

Nice one Ian but i would keep your ladders if not as a reminder of all those near falls we have all had.
i told a farmer i want my wheat hand pick not one those new combine harvester machines 
Times move on so what if the windows are left to dry I bet they'd moan if it was your blood drying on the glass.
If they want someone clean their windows off a ladder because it turns them on then good for them.
And yes i am only in it for the money  : I have enough excitement in my life without using ladders

[SB Cleaning]

Very well said ian

[Neil kell]

Anyone who thinks they can dump their ladders just coz they got a new system will find themselves sorely mistaken. The system will do away with cherry pickers and maybe even abseiling. But your ladder is part of your 'bag o' tricks, and always will be.

[Ian101]

Anyone who thinks they can dump their ladders just coz they got a new system will find themselves sorely mistaken. The system will do away with cherry pickers and maybe even abseiling. But your ladder is part of your 'bag o' tricks, and always will be.

Neil ...im sure ur correct but ive made concious decision no more ladders - sure may cost me a few customers either because a ladder is still needed or because they prefer trad but to keep it simple only doing WFP when I change over. ... any trad work will be sold off ..... jusy my choice but been ummming and arrring about it for last week that decided for simplicity just doing wfp  plus spending too much time thinking about it.

however will miss the ladders at first as get some stunning views around these parts and nothing beats that feeling on a sunny day cleaning windows with great scenery when up a ladder.

[Sir Squeaky]

Anyone who thinks they can dump their ladders just coz they got a new system will find themselves sorely mistaken. The system will do away with cherry pickers and maybe even abseiling. But your ladder is part of your 'bag o' tricks, and always will be.

What would you want a ladder for?

I've always stuck up for working with the squeegee, but the minute a got a pole I stopped carrying ladders.
They simply aren't needed.

Besides, I don't want to have ladders on my nice van and look like a pikey.

[Ian101]

only think i can think of squeaky is for access issues ?

[Sean Dyer]

flat roofs??
there are some jobs were a ladder is needed!

[Sir Squeaky]

only think i can think of squeaky is for access issues ?

Never had any problems in the first 3 years or so!
Locked gate? Front only it is then. Or alternatively...next...!

Anything you can't get to doesn't get done. Same as trad guys who can't do some windows.

[Neil kell]

Anyone who thinks they can dump their ladders just coz they got a new system will find themselves sorely mistaken. The system will do away with cherry pickers and maybe even abseiling. But your ladder is part of your 'bag o' tricks, and always will be.

Neil ...im sure ur correct but ive made concious decision no more ladders - sure may cost me a few customers either because a ladder is still needed or because they prefer trad but to keep it simple only doing WFP when I change over. ... any trad work will be sold off ..... jusy my choice but been ummming and arrring about it for last week that decided for simplicity just doing wfp  plus spending too much time thinking about it.

however will miss the ladders at first as get some stunning views around these parts and nothing beats that feeling on a sunny day cleaning windows with great scenery when up a ladder.

Its just Murphy's law, the ladder is still part and parcel. Maybe not every day but I would'nt go sticking up on E bay. Whats the harm in having it up on the racks? Its there, do you not do gutters? The pure water can leave water blotches, especially on wet damp days like we get this side of the world, this time of the year. If the water can't evaporate due to moisture, cold and damp it can leave mark. One pane can be brilliant, and the one beside it can show a dried in droplet. What does that droplet want?  >:(It takes a while to get the knack of getting around that. It comes instinctively, its awkward to explain.

[clearlyclean]

my ladders sit on my rack all week but occasionally i might need them,getting excess to a flat roof reaching a bolt on gate one of my customers ask me to adjust her security lights.Everyone has a different round stay safe and be sensible up there.
don't know about customers but I'm getting tired of WFP 

[skillwizz]

For all you newbies (and oldies comming out of the dark)  out there........get a leaflet explaining how the wfp system works!!  and post it or better still give it to your custys by hand!

Worked for me..........and then a few months down the line....give 'em another one ('cos they wont read the first one).

George.

[AuRavelling79]

For all you newbies (and oldies comming out of the dark)  out there........get a leaflet explaining how the wfp system works!!  and post it or better still give it to your custys by hand!

Worked for me..........and then a few months down the line....give 'em another one ('cos they wont read the first one).

George.

Agreed. Worked when I changed over.

[Richy L]

Rog,

Dont you do gutter cleans? You surely need ladders for that

[Sir Squeaky]

Rog,

Dont you do gutter cleans? You surely need ladders for that

No, my pole goes way higher than that.

[Neil kell]

Rog,

Dont you do gutter cleans? You surely need ladders for that

I already said that about the gutters! Read my post. Too busy with your ovens eh?

[Sir Squeaky]

Don't need ladders for gutters. Doing it by hand is much harder work and bloody high as well!

[cat9921]

Its funny that the post is called customers tiring of wfp  :

I have picked up new work today off a trad WC not because he is a bad WC or that he is to highly priced. But the customers have caravans on the drive and the window cleaner has to miss them out when it is parked there ...

I really do think more people are seeing the benefit to having a WC that does clean WFP 

Adders

[Sir Squeaky]

I really do think more people are seeing the benefit to having a WC that does clean WFP 

I think you're probably right in general, but seems to have been a few more moaners in recent months, definitely.

[G Griffin]

My van is high, so I need a ladder to reach the rack, to get the ladder off; if you know what I mean.

[Sir Squeaky]

My van is high, so I need a ladder to reach the rack, to get the ladder off; if you know what I mean.

I'm telling health and safety.

You should be getting it off with a pole now.