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Gav Camm lammy 283

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vision express
« on: October 10, 2010, 12:52:03 am »
who's losing stores ??????
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Re: vision express
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2010, 12:57:16 am »
an other chain gone national?

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: vision express
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2010, 01:03:33 am »
could well be lol ;D ;D
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"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

james44

Re: vision express
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2010, 01:03:53 am »
I seen that comming ;D

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: vision express
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 01:05:35 am »
shoulda gone to spec savers  ;D ;D ;D
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 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Smudgeoff Cleaning Services

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Re: vision express
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2010, 06:57:35 am »
Lol very good Gav  ;D
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Rob Knapman

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Re: vision express
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 07:27:26 am »
Sadly this is getting more and more common with big stores, Ive lost a few recently to national contractors and have noticed the standard of cleaning with them isnt great ::). Apparently for them it cheaper/easier to pay just one contactor, but what is happening is they are losing the personal touch............Pay peanuts....Get monkeys :P
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Re: vision express
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 08:05:13 am »
Sadly this is getting more and more common with big stores, Ive lost a few recently to national contractors and have noticed the standard of cleaning with them isnt great ::). Apparently for them it cheaper/easier to pay just one contactor, but what is happening is they are losing the personal touch............Pay peanuts....Get monkeys :P

yea but they aint bothered,  u get some one who quotes something like £12 per store then tries to sub them out for £6

Llaaww

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Re: vision express
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2010, 10:57:46 am »
Sadly this is getting more and more common with big stores, Ive lost a few recently to national contractors and have noticed the standard of cleaning with them isnt great ::). Apparently for them it cheaper/easier to pay just one contactor, but what is happening is they are losing the personal touch............Pay peanuts....Get monkeys :P
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To say that the standard of cleaning isn't great is an understatement. Many of these national contracts have the most snot ridden filthy scum holes on their books. In the past I have gone as far a sending photos to regional managers showing just how filthy the place is. The stock answer is that they are being done on a national contract basis and that is that.
The only way to pick up individual stores is if you find a manager with some balls who will make the decision to spend out of his own budget, even then they are a bit shakey as the regional boss tends to visit on a regular basis, and will happily p on everybodys chips.
These so called national contractors should be ashamed of themselves, they routinely invoice for work that has simply not been done, and the work that has been done is often shoddy.  It makes me angry when I see potential jobs and revenue lost to some greedy toe rag that sits back and counts the money without actually doing the work.

rant over


if it is dirty it is fair game

Re: vision express
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2010, 11:13:17 am »
Sadly this is getting more and more common with big stores, Ive lost a few recently to national contractors and have noticed the standard of cleaning with them isnt great ::). Apparently for them it cheaper/easier to pay just one contactor, but what is happening is they are losing the personal touch............Pay peanuts....Get monkeys :P
[/quot

To say that the standard of cleaning isn't great is an understatement. Many of these national contracts have the most snot ridden filthy scum holes on their books. In the past I have gone as far a sending photos to regional managers showing just how filthy the place is. The stock answer is that they are being done on a national contract basis and that is that.
The only way to pick up individual stores is if you find a manager with some balls who will make the decision to spend out of his own budget, even then they are a bit shakey as the regional boss tends to visit on a regular basis, and will happily p on everybodys chips.
These so called national contractors should be ashamed of themselves, they routinely invoice for work that has simply not been done, and the work that has been done is often shoddy. It makes me angry when I see potential jobs and revenue lost to some greedy toe rag that sits back and counts the money without actually doing the work.

rant over



there is a wc near me, whos lads dont even do frames on the hotels they do,  just the glass and that is it

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: vision express
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2010, 02:00:37 pm »
We have the same problem with our local Coop; Mitie Clean have the cleaning contract and the amount of times the manageress has asked to clean the windows because the shop was due a visit from head office is amazing.

Mitie are meant to clean her windows every fortnight - yeah right; they must have a different calandar to the rest of us.

She said she'd love to just hand us the whole cleaning contract but her hands are tied - criminal I think >:(
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

JSMC

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Re: vision express
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 03:14:42 pm »
We have the same problem with our local Coop; Mitie Clean have the cleaning contract and the amount of times the manageress has asked to clean the windows because the shop was due a visit from head office is amazing.

Mitie are meant to clean her windows every fortnight - yeah right; they must have a different calandar to the rest of us.

She said she'd love to just hand us the whole cleaning contract but her hands are tied - criminal I think >:(

i'm hoping ye dont do them. Explain to her she will understand. Lost a good few jobs lately to big companies

Re: vision express
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 03:40:05 pm »
a lot arnt big companys, they just get hold of the man in charge and put a stupid price in   then worry about it alter

landy2

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Re: vision express
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2010, 03:53:55 pm »
this is the future for a lot of chain stores and even small stores they are paying half the price in a few years most commercial will be done by the big companys less overheads and only one invoice they even safe money on there own paper work

let face it its better for them we know its not for us but you have to move with the times thats why people are moving into domestic thats were the money is for small one man bands thats something the big boys are not into it would not work for them

Re: vision express
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 03:57:13 pm »
the problem u have with that is when they lose all there commercial  they try to get as much domestic as poss and if they under cut so what

DaveG

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Re: vision express
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2010, 06:31:10 pm »
We have the same problem with our local Coop; Mitie Clean have the cleaning contract and the amount of times the manageress has asked to clean the windows because the shop was due a visit from head office is amazing.

Mitie are meant to clean her windows every fortnight - yeah right; they must have a different calandar to the rest of us.

She said she'd love to just hand us the whole cleaning contract but her hands are tied - criminal I think >:(


 Dave Morris has got the contract for Co op
You can't polish a turd

landy2

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Re: vision express
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2010, 06:38:05 pm »
floor brite got morrisons tescos

Re: vision express
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2010, 07:07:20 pm »
We have the same problem with our local Coop; Mitie Clean have the cleaning contract and the amount of times the manageress has asked to clean the windows because the shop was due a visit from head office is amazing.

Mitie are meant to clean her windows every fortnight - yeah right; they must have a different calandar to the rest of us.

She said she'd love to just hand us the whole cleaning contract but her hands are tied - criminal I think >:(


 Dave Morris has got the contract for Co op

thought he lost it,  i know he got m and s   becasue the coop near me is still mitie

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: vision express
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2010, 07:22:06 pm »
Mitie does my local coop; I know this cause I watch the old git who cleans every day; it's the window cleaners who don't turn up :(
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

DaveG

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Re: vision express
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2010, 07:33:24 pm »
We have the same problem with our local Coop; Mitie Clean have the cleaning contract and the amount of times the manageress has asked to clean the windows because the shop was due a visit from head office is amazing.

Mitie are meant to clean her windows every fortnight - yeah right; they must have a different calandar to the rest of us.

She said she'd love to just hand us the whole cleaning contract but her hands are tied - criminal I think >:(


 Dave Morris has got the contract for Co op

thought he lost it, i know he got m and s becasue the coop near me is still mitie


Oh right ok, that might explain why he stopped me doing the ones around here
You can't polish a turd