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roundbuilder

North vs South price wars.
« on: October 05, 2010, 11:45:18 am »
Right i understand that down south more can be charged for indow cleaning. what i cant understand is that when i first started window cleaning in 2002  i had a round where all my prices were £8 which were for small semi's and terraced houses, i then started to come on forums to find recomended min charge was £10 so i put them all up to £10 (i lost about 5 if i can remember) but that was in 2002 8 years ago.now my min i charge for a house is £12 so not much difference in 8 years. However recently been noticing on here that SOME people up north are doing semi's  for £4-£6 id dread to think what they charge for terraced. Surely something isnt right how can it be double down her. there isnt that much difference in cost of living between the 2 or is there??.


gewindows

Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 12:01:03 pm »
We care about our appearance down here.

Never been down a coal-mine me and I dont think many of my custards have  ;)

rg1

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 12:10:07 pm »
It's all relevant to what part of the UK you live in. Property prices vary, wages vary etc etc.
The pen is mightier than the sword (and a lot easier to write with!)

TonyD

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 01:28:06 pm »
there isnt that much difference in cost of living between the 2 or is there??.





I'd say yes there's a big difference.  Cost of living in some southern areas and more desirable other UK area's can increase quite a lot compared to up't north in small old fashoined mining town sort of areas. (where I am)
I think house prices mainly are the biggest difference in cost of living.  A house that would be maybe £80k could be more like £180k in a more desirable or popular/heavily populated southern area.  

Even though I live in an old fashoined mining town myself I still try and price a decent/respectable amount for my local work.

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 02:01:46 pm »
Surely there are affluent areas up north; I can't imagine many premier league footballers live in run down mining villages ???

Anyway, it's not a north / south divide; I reckon it's a London and surrounding area / rest of the country divide because down in Plymouth we can't charge London prices, and apparently Cornwall is even worse :'(
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

AuRavelling79

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 02:39:12 pm »
Surely there are affluent areas up north; I can't imagine many premier league footballers live in run down mining villages ???

Anyway, it's not a north / south divide; I reckon it's a London and surrounding area / rest of the country divide because down in Plymouth we can't charge London prices, and apparently Cornwall is even worse :'(

They all live in Cheshire don'cha know? That's as far South as you can get without becoming a Brummie loike! ;D

You are right about Posh'n'poor areas - here in Bristol, which outside of the South East is pretty affluent even now privately bought council semi's needing work (real brick jobbies, not the concrete cancer type) fetch £150K/£170K and a if you are in Stoke Bishop that would be £250K plus - Sneyd Park, Clifton or Leigh Woods gets you into the 500K/1 million range, before you go out into the country and buy a small manor house.

But one of my custies lives in a village outside Bristol near the M48 Severn Bridge and they sold a semi in London for 650K and got this 5 bed bungalow with a 5 car garage and 4 acres of land for the same money!
It's a game of three halves!

Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 02:42:07 pm »
parts of cornwall are crap, i have some which are crap and some good ones,

there is a lot of cheap wc down here working on the side, and then u get the summer brigade,  come down to surf and all become wc

i think a lot of what people will accept as a decent price, has got to be reasonable price for the job,  sure we all have some which are priced high  and all moan when get undercut,   i do a few terrace house for a £5 each,  not great price but got 4 next to each other so earn £20 for 30 mins work tops

roundbuilder

Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 02:44:05 pm »
parts of cornwall are crap, i have some which are crap and some good ones,

there is a lot of cheap wc down here working on the side, and then u get the summer brigade,  come down to surf and all become wc

i think a lot of what people will accept as a decent price, has got to be reasonable price for the job,  sure we all have some which are priced high  and all moan when get undercut,   i do a few terrace house for a £5 each,  not great price but got 4 next to each other so earn £20 for 30 mins work tops


all good but if they were priced at £10........

Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 02:50:33 pm »
u wouldnt get them at £10 cleeen, 

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 04:07:45 pm »
And even if you did someone would pinch them off you for £7.50 :o

It's all well and good folk coming on here spouting minimum prices and saying they wouldn't get out of bed for less than this or that but I honestly believe that that's mostly sh*"e.

Of course you wouldn't clean a house for £2 but I think some of the minimumprices on here are better left in their imaginations ::)
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

Paul Coleman

Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2010, 05:12:03 pm »
Right i understand that down south more can be charged for indow cleaning. what i cant understand is that when i first started window cleaning in 2002  i had a round where all my prices were £8 which were for small semi's and terraced houses, i then started to come on forums to find recomended min charge was £10 so i put them all up to £10 (i lost about 5 if i can remember) but that was in 2002 8 years ago.now my min i charge for a house is £12 so not much difference in 8 years. However recently been noticing on here that SOME people up north are doing semi's  for £4-£6 id dread to think what they charge for terraced. Surely something isnt right how can it be double down her. there isnt that much difference in cost of living between the 2 or is there??.



It's not just about cost of living differences - though they can be quite marked when you compare rents and mortgage sizes in particular.  It is also about the drag effect of the black economy on pricing.  Traditionally unemployment has been much higher in the north so you will get a bigger black economy - of which part-time window cleaning forms a fair part.  Add the supply and demand figures being skewed by the additional black economy labour onto the difference in cost of living and you then start you see a much larger variation in pricing.
I know it's wrong but it's the way society is I'm afraid.

Paul Coleman

Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 05:24:33 pm »
And even if you did someone would pinch them off you for £7.50 :o

It's all well and good folk coming on here spouting minimum prices and saying they wouldn't get out of bed for less than this or that but I honestly believe that that's mostly sh*"e.

Of course you wouldn't clean a house for £2 but I think some of the minimumprices on here are better left in their imaginations ::)

I'm in the southeast and have a minimum for new work of £10.  However it's very unusual for me to quote below £12 these days.  I do have older work (very small jobs) that I charge for which less.
However, if my mortgage was say £300 less per month (due to lower house prices) and I could save a bit on my shopping bill (unlikely as I'm already a right Timothy), and the local economy was also generally at a more price deflated level, then of course I could work for less.  I might even be able to work for less and still have a slightly better standard of living.  It's not about how much disposable income there is but how much it would buy locally.

jonboywalton75

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2010, 08:53:19 pm »
Cheshire is a goldmine  ;D

dazmond

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2010, 08:04:02 am »
my brother lives in wimbledon and the cost of living is a lot higher than the north west.he also earns about 10grand more than me a year.is he better off?NO!as the extra money he earns is swallowed up by high rent and higher living costs.

i couldnt care less about prices around the country.at the end of the day its up to YOU what you want to charge!

if you want to charge £10 min or clean the same property for a quid then its entirely up to you!! :P :P :P :P



dazmond
price higher/work harder!

bobby p

Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2010, 08:21:24 am »
im in suffolk and for a while thought i was underpriced as my average for a semi or a council house was 8 or 9 /   the big trad firm near me is about 10-12  .but then on this forum a fellah was selling a round here the prices were 3 or 4 quid for detached. that cheered me up !

G Griffin

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2010, 08:24:59 am »
We care about our appearance down here.

  But usually get it wrong  ;)
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gewindows

Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2010, 08:26:30 am »
 :-*

G Griffin

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2010, 08:35:47 am »
 ;D
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clearlyclean

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2010, 05:26:02 pm »
southerner in exile up north and i still charge southern prices whatever that may be :-\,I think its supply and demand if there is demand for your services then you can charge more.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: North vs South price wars.
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2010, 10:58:22 pm »
This has came up many times in the past and if you look into it more closely you will usually find that the people cleaning the lower priced semi is doing far more per hour, balancing out roughly to the same amount of money per hour. 

Now taking into consideration the cost of living differences many of the WC cleaning a 3 bed semi for £6 is actually better off than the person cleaning a 3 bed semi for £15.

Peter Fogwill
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