[Geoff Jewkes]

Anyone use them ?? Is there a knack to using them?? I bought a craftex one for my Prochem Steempro as I do letting agent work and most of the time the hot water is off, I've used it today for the first time and to be honest I'm not that impressed. My old machine had a submersed heater with gave constant heat at what ever temperature that you wanted but this thing seems a bit naff, perhaps I'm using it wrong or just expecting too much, I just don`t know!! Any suggestions would be appreciated, Geoff

[robert meldrum]

Was shown one yesterday a mate got from Cleansmart ............he's incorporated it into an old wet n dry machine ( totally stripped out ) and is chuffed with the performance .

He previously used water from the tap and has been amazed at the excellent results..............quicker drying.............quicker cleaning.............almost eliminated prespraying.

Tells me he gets steady heat, unlike the Ashbys unit I had a while back which only produced short bursts of hot water

[Geoff Jewkes]

Perhaps its the way I've used it, haven't used an inline heater for years!

[Grant Whyte]

Hi

I use the Heat n' Run with either 25ft or 50ft of hose on my Prochem Powermax. Once I'm using the wand it takes a few minutes to get hot. After that I do a stroke or two wet (spray extract) and then go back with 2 to 3 strokes dry (extract), this way the heat is maintained and get continuos hot water on my wet strokes. For my domestic work its perfect and I've had consistently good results and customer feedback.

handwerka

[Grant Whyte]

Also, I make sure that the solution tank is filled with hot water so that the Heat n' Run doesn't work from cold water.

[cleanability]

My Ninja which I think is an awful machine and I never use it has an in-line heater. It was explained to me by Ashbys that you cant run stone cold water through the in-line heater and expect hot water out the other end. The water has got to be at least luke warm. And they are darn right. I cleaned a rental property with no hot water and my in-line heater was useless. So whether this is the same with all in-line heaters I dont know.

Chris

[Geoff Jewkes]

No I'm not too sure either  :  I was reading a on a site about an inline heater ( can't remember which one now ) about letting the heater warm up before you start, then clean by doing four wet passes then 4 dry passes, this allows the heater to keep up the temperature, in other words slow down and give the heater a chance to heat  the cold water thats going in !! So I've just set my gear up and powered it all up ( no I'm not cleaning my lounge again !!! ). Connected my hand tool let the heater heat up ( 40 seconds or so ) then pressed the trigger 4 times to imitate the 4 wet passes, waited 20 seconds ( the dry passes ) then the wet passes and so on, I burnt my bloody hand  !!! Now whether this will work on a job I don`t know! I think that if you're going from stone cold then it is a case of slowing down. I wouldn`t be bothered but I do a lot of rentals which obviously have the hot water off when I arrive ( Grrrr ).

[jsm]

ive got one on a ninja , they work well with warm water from a tap upping the temp ,  but cold - you lucky to get warm ish at the tool end , ok for me as i dont touch rentals lol i leave that for you geoff ... you best getting a prowler or cheap TM if you want contant hot .

the ninja also has a inboard kettle type heater also which takes it up to 40 .c ( tho mine burtn out years ago) - it all helps

[Tony Gill Carpet Smart]

Chris.
There must be somethihg wrong with your Ninja although I have now moved on to a TM.
I started out with the 400psi Ninja with built in Steam Mate.
The way we used it was as Ashby's told us to First let the water in the solution tank heat up or fill it with already hot water then switch over to the heat exchanger constant hot water never a problem.
PS We still use it sometimes when we can't get in with the TM and it still performs well Just Hate having to fetch water lol.

Cheers Tony

[Geoff Jewkes]

Well I just burnt my hand from stone cold using the method I read about on the net earlier, i have a rental in the morning so I'll keep you posted!! I had an Alltec machine with a submersed heater, just like the ninja one but it would go to 90 Degrees C which was great on the manky rentals!!! As you can see on my other thread I'm also looking into better presprays to tackle the rentals mainly, just incase I have to cope with a lower heat!! I'm thinking that power burst is the way to go and also a brush for my taski ergodisc to aid agitation, Geoff

[Geoff Jewkes]

Chris.
There must be somethihg wrong with your Ninja although I have now moved on to a TM.
I started out with the 400psi Ninja with built in Steam Mate.
The way we used it was as Ashby's told us to First let the water in the solution tank heat up or fill it with already hot water then switch over to the heat exchanger constant hot water never a problem.
PS We still use it sometimes when we can't get in with the TM and it still performs well Just Hate having to fetch water lol.

Cheers Tony

I was thinking that, with a 40 degree headstart an inline heater should be fine, with warm water in my tank my craftex inline heater does maintain constant heat, my trouble was with cold water.

[JandS]

My Ninja heats it to 60c then is switched over to the built in Steamate.
Constant red hot water.

John

[JandS]

My Ninja heats it to 60c then is switched over to the built in Steamate.
Constant red hot water.

John

[cleanability]

I was always led to believe stone cold water in. Hot water out. Which obviously isnt possible.

Chris

[Geoff Jewkes]

I think the answer is have the heater as close to the wand as possible to prevent heat loss through the solution line and slow down, if the water passes through the chamber too quickly it has no chance to heat.
Tried this earlier but not on an actual clean, just with a hand tool over the solution tank, stinking hot. On a rental clean in the morning and I know that theres no hot water available so I will post my results here!!

[Steve. Taylor]

If your struggling with hot water issues a good pre spay with good agitation 15 to 20 dwell time is a key factor IMO

[Geoff Jewkes]

Yep looking into that too on the other thread  Just need a brush for my taski ergodisc !

[Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)]

I'm assuming in EOTs that we try and turn the boiler on to get round this problem.

I understand that on the Airflex the hot exhaust air is re-cycled round the water heating elements to improve the water temperature. have I understood this correctly?

Rog

[Linds Russell]

My inline heater makes a blinder of a difference on my Prochem machine. Even from cold tap water!

Love it!

[Carpet Dawg]

I'm assuming in EOTs that we try and turn the boiler on to get round this problem.

I understand that on the Airflex the hot exhaust air is re-cycled round the water heating elements to improve the water temperature. have I understood this correctly?

Rog

Think your confused with powr-filte's Perfect Heat machine Roger.