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ronnie paton

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 07:56:58 pm »
no 30k profit, two men could easily do that so you have two members of staff.

you very little just sheduling which window cleaner pro can do, you take a small wage and the rest in divedens


David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 08:05:18 pm »
pointless all pointless..... if your not going to buy it what is everyone bickering about???????????? >:(

the bfg

Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2010, 08:25:21 pm »
well said

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2010, 08:27:56 pm »
Whats up with you people, i just demonstrated the profit is 11k.

Not a good return for a 100k RISK!! domestic round with no contracts?

Would you HONESTLY risk 100k of your childs inheritance ;D for only 11k return IF all goes to plan?

martinsadie

Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2010, 08:33:03 pm »
its wfp ,so im out  ;)

tony braid

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2010, 09:06:47 pm »
You Know the problem with window cleaning work domestic or commercial it has been undervalued for years 25 years ago i could not give work away
Tony you say  domestic work would be a risk well i would rather take a punt to have quality domestic than commercial anyday and i have a lot of commercial
The work is only worth what someone wants to pay and thats  me personally i have sold work for 10 cleans and also bought for large amounts and it has been the best investment i have ever made
Regards Tony

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2010, 09:30:44 pm »
there was a round of simalar value that was staff run theat went for a simalar amount about two years ago up north.

too just right off such amounts is ridiculous without looking at the company properly.




Unless ALL the customers are on 12 month contracts with the window cleaning firm, the seller would be lucky to get half that even with a van!
you wouldn't get a bank loan for it thats for sure, if it was all commercial tied into contracts that another ball game.

Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

ronnie paton

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2010, 09:44:14 pm »
there was a round of simalar value that was staff run theat went for a simalar amount about two years ago up north.

too just right off such amounts is ridiculous without looking at the company properly.






Unless ALL the customers are on 12 month contracts with the window cleaning firm, the seller would be lucky to get half that even with a van!
you wouldn't get a bank loan for it thats for sure, if it was all commercial tied into contracts that another ball game.

Matt

this is so un true its real i know what isaid in my post to be true and there were no contracts in place!

look at businesses for sale i regular see cafe for sale for near to there turnover along with other businesses do they get there regulars to sign a contract to say you must have a bacon and egg on toast 5 days  a week????

so many experts without real experience, how many have actually sold a business with  turnover 90k or more actually how many have a business turning over 90k or more????


♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2010, 10:17:07 pm »
I'm more concerned about my current & future business & what it generates while I own it. Neither me nor thee will change the opinion of what window cleaning businesses are worth! Why worry about it. As said, it's only worth what someone will pay for it, no buyer- worthless. Work your bollox off, have a huge turnover etc. it's still a "window cleaning business" which will probably be viewed differently to other businesses, especially by someone on the outside of the industry. ;)

I think my house is worth 500k, unfortunately, no one else shares my opinion. ::)

BUT, good luck to the guy who's selling it. ;)


Paul Coleman

Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2010, 10:35:56 pm »
This is turning into a habit Ronnie, you’re the 2nd one this week winproclean was the other lucky one.

I find this a shocking read, how many people posting on this thread have talked about building something of value, or did I assume the value part.

My advice is if you’re going to spend the next 5-10 or 15years or more window cleaning and it’s going to be worth nothing at the end of those years, make sure you at least fully understand pricing!


This is terrible Ewan.
I agree with you too  ;D

Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2010, 11:00:00 pm »
Hi guys, I'm new to the forum.
From my 14 years experience in window cleaning your operating profit should be 25-30% if you are doing it right.
I would say 100k is not to far out!
Regards
Simon

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2010, 11:16:50 pm »
explain why its different then window pro, support your post

I don't have to ronnie, just read this thread. Proof even from within the industry! ;)

ronnie paton

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2010, 11:30:39 pm »
OMG so cleanitup is the industry ::)

how many of the people that believe its not worth it have ant experience with selling a company of this size???

you have nothing to back up what you say, but i dont mind people under valuing there business has gives people like me the opertunity to get a bargain ;)

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2010, 11:37:03 pm »
OMG so cleanitup is the industry ::)

how many of the people that believe its not worth it have ant experience with selling a company of this size???

you have nothing to back up what you say, but i dont mind people under valuing there business has gives people like me the opertunity to get a bargain ;)

Why haven't you bought it ronnie? why don't you buy every round for sale if they are such good value?

You've just a chip on your shoulder 'cos you've built a business up that's not worth as much as you would like it to be. That's the way it is buddy. "a window cleaning business"  sell up & retire? you can't, why? cos your business is worth sod all in reality! ;D

ronnie paton

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2010, 11:42:54 pm »
great response

again no substance behind your theory.

i have a BUSINESS that brings me in a good profit for doing very little i would say its got great value to me and to many others if i was to sell.

some one could walk into my business and change nothing and make a profit.

i know a company that was sold for simalar value so i know its possible, you keep doubting and when your to old sell your round for 1x a clean, i wont be believe me or not.

i see cafe garages restaurants ect being sold for simalar and none have contracts so please explain your theory...............ill bet you cant and youll come up with another nothing remark that clearly shows the chip lies soley on your shoulder

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2010, 11:46:20 pm »
great response

again no substance behind your theory.

i have a BUSINESS that brings me in a good profit for doing very little i would say its got great value to me and to many others if i was to sell.

some one could walk into my business and change nothing and make a profit.

i know a company that was sold for simalar value so i know its possible, you keep doubting and when your to old sell your round for 1x a clean, i wont be believe me or not.

i see cafe garages restaurants ect being sold for simalar and none have contracts so please explain your theory...............ill bet you cant and youll come up with another nothing remark that clearly shows the chip lies soley on your shoulder

Ronald ::) it's a "window cleaning business" get over it mate, you'll kill yourself! ;D It doesn't matter what you've seen in the past, it doesn't matter what or who sold what for. Put it up for sale & you'll discover what I mean! ;)

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2010, 11:50:27 pm »
When I come to sell my business, I'll get what someone is prepared to pay for it Ronnie. It certainly will be nothing near 100k & I can live with that.

I'm more bothered with getting my money out of it now & not it's sale value! :-*

ronnie paton

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Re: Window Cleaning round for sale £100K ... anyone lend me a few quid
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2010, 11:55:58 pm »
ok master iv been well and truely been told yawn yawn yawn

nothing to support your rubbish so untill you do and are able to put me in my place i wont be wasting me breath, has all i an see is you are a "think you know" and not a "actually knows"

im guessing you also have no experience of selling or ruinning a business of this nature also

keep dreaming  ::)