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Geoff Jewkes

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Extracta.......Any good??
« on: September 29, 2010, 01:36:56 pm »
Just wondered what you guys thought of extracta machines ??? Geoff

creighton foyle

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 01:50:54 pm »
the first machine i bought was an extracta and i found it to be a good machine, that was ten years ago and i do'nt think it has changed a lot in that time, there are better machines on the market but i would not put anyone off buying one.

westy uses an extracta maybe if he sees this he'll be able to tell you more.

Geoff Jewkes

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 02:44:40 pm »
Thanks for that, Neil has one for sale thats done low hours, its 320 miles away but it might be worth the trek to bonnie Scotland, my alltec is in dire need of a skip and havent got a spare 2K for a new one unfortunately!

Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 02:54:24 pm »
Hi Geoff, Brian at extracta is a nice knowlegable bloke, they are a sound company that have been trading for many years, customer service is spot on and they dont do the hard sell, I have the excel and have used it at 22.5 metres with no problems at all, since I purchased it in Feb it has proven to be 100% reliable and has done the job, I have never used a higher powered machine so cannot compare or make comments, when I looked before the purchase I did think that the two 7" vacs on the excel made a difference in vacuum power over machines with the two 5" vacs fitted. If the carpet side of things really takes off for me, I may purchase a truckmount and use the excel as a back up, as setting up, filling and emptying etc.. can be a pain.  

Hi Creighton! hope your well and keeping busy?

Kind regards,

Westy

Geoff Jewkes

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 03:23:50 pm »
Cheers Westy, I think that he wants £1250 for it which is about my budget at the moment

Simon Moat

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 07:13:17 pm »
Extracta all the way for me, as has been written already 100% reliable and very good customer service and support.

The've been going about 35 years so must be doing something right.

Simon.

stuart_clark

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 07:45:44 pm »
I have an Extracta exell, its about three years old but ive had it converted to 5.2" vac motors, john at extracta will tell you that they are not as powerful as there 7" motors but thats a load of TOSH  its been tested and has more airflow than the 7" motors and one hell of a lot cheaper to replace
its noware as powerfull  as my scorpian, but for a twin vac machine its not bad

cannon

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 08:07:30 pm »
STU - do the 5.2 vacs fit straight in or is any modifications needed?

fibrefresh - i run an excell and its served me well and extracta are a good company to deal with.

I am however at a stage now where im after a bit more grunt and will hopfully be looking for a different machine in the near future....but for now its me and my excell, which reminds me its still in the van best bring her in.

stuart_clark

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2010, 03:53:22 pm »
no they do need a modification, but its worth it as the differance between the two is immence! i also had a 200 psi pump fitted which makes cleaning a bit easier

cannon

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2010, 04:22:16 pm »
Is there any issues with installing a 200psi pump? and can the standard extracta solution hose handle the extra pressure? id love a little extra oomph, but a new machine is out of the question at the min  :(

john aitken

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2010, 05:38:50 pm »
Just wondered what you guys thought of extracta machines ??? Geoff

ive used extracta all my life up till 5 years ago i think there very 80s
what i mean is its all about heat and the extracta just dosent do it for me
i mean a kettle element  christ its 2010 some portys have bitching in line heaters
way  way  better than extracta. [only me opinion] and the same price .  shop around fella  speak to john Kelly   he truly is a cleaning god    peace out

stuart_clark

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2010, 05:39:28 pm »
not sure realy cos the standard extracta solution hose is rather poor quality realy, I dont use it personaly i have steel lined from solutions

Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2010, 06:49:08 pm »
Just wondered what you guys thought of extracta machines ??? Geoff

ive used extracta all my life up till 5 years ago i think there very 80s
what i mean is its all about heat and the extracta just dosent do it for me
i mean a kettle element  christ its 2010 some portys have bitching in line heaters
way  way  better than extracta. [only me opinion] and the same price .  shop around fella  speak to john Kelly   he truly is a cleaning god    peace out

John, they use a 3 kw immersion type heater, just as altec use and the same that is used on the ninja, and yes the same that is used in a 3 kw kettle as its very reliable. Any one can buy and use an inline heater for any machine if they want one, it is 2010 but a 3 kw kettle is very modern really.

not sure realy cos the standard extracta solution hose is rather poor quality realy, I dont use it personaly i have steel lined from solutions


I would stick my neck out and say yes the extracta solution hose and fittings would very easily withstand 200 psi. Along time ago I used to build and test high pressure instrumentational valves for shell, BP, british gas etc.. sometimes at pressures up to 35,000 psi, even though they would only usually be used at 500 psi max. I would disagree about the (standard?) extracta solution hose being poor quality, imo the hoses and fittings seem well made and of very good quality. I'm sure that items designed to work and run at only around 6.9 bar have to be tested at much higher pressures. But, it would more than likely invalidate any given warranty, as the hose has been sold to be used with the 100 psi pump.

Kind regards,

Paul

 

stuart_clark

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2010, 10:29:45 pm »
I have had two situations where ive used extracta hose with there exell machines and the brass fittings have come adrift and spowed hot water over myself and the carprt, I believe Paul wallace has suffered the same fate with his Exell and extracta hoses, 
There I rest my case and thats with only 100 psi, I regulary use my Scorpian at over 500 psi without any problems at all! and thats with the solution hoses


regards  Stu clark

Max Campbell

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2010, 07:28:02 pm »
I started in 1993 with a secondhand Excell - it was OK, but looks cheap to the customer compared to a nice white Alltec - which I've had 2 of. Their handtools, though, are great - cast aluminium. They can be amended to take the modern standard valve - Extracta's valves are, well, very 80's. 1250 sounds dear to me, unless it's with all the tools, etc., and good nick / recond.

Ian Rochester

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2010, 09:16:49 pm »
We started out with an Extracta Excel and Scrubba Deluxe, bought a second hand one after a couple of years to keep up with our workload.

They are now both sat in the workshop doing nothing, looking for a good home.  One is promised to a lad if he can come up with the money but the other is still available, £600 with hose and wand (no hand-tool) and it needs a new castor wheel as the rubber keeps coming off. Scrubba £400 and you can have a one with a broken handle for free as spares!

Location ..............God's secret kingdom of Northumberland!

Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2010, 10:38:42 pm »
I started in 1993 with a secondhand Excell - it was OK, but looks cheap to the customer compared to a nice white Alltec - which I've had 2 of. Their handtools, though, are great - cast aluminium. They can be amended to take the modern standard valve - Extracta's valves are, well, very 80's. 1250 sounds dear to me, unless it's with all the tools, etc., and good nick / recond.

I looked at alltec machines and others before I purchased an exel, I decided to do a deal with Brian at extracta because of their sound and long standing business pedigree, this is a very sound established company that can open large credit accounts with any supplier. This means you can visit the showroom on any given day pay the money and take one home and not have to wait 3 or 4 weeks.   

They also do them in White  :)

Any how, people can knock this machine and others all they want, I think its maybe just a boys and toys thing myself, you can have 40k's worth of stuff in a nice new van, but by just having that alone will not make you a good living or keep you busy.

It is you that will win you the job not what system or machine you use

Its all down to sales, marketing and trust, if you get it right the guy with the TM will lose out to the guy who uses a single vac portable.

Regards,

Paul

Ian Rochester

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2010, 05:18:21 am »
Paul,

I have to agree, they are still a very good machine, robust and reliable.

Ian Rochester

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Re: Extracta.......Any good??
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2010, 11:00:35 pm »
First machine leaving the workshop on Friday for the bargain price of £600 including hose, wand and a bucket of superchem and lift off.