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Sarah Sarill

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Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« on: September 17, 2005, 08:51:15 pm »
Gave an existing customer one of my wfp explanation newsletter today and he suggested I promote a mobile (exterior) car cleaning service.   He drives a top of the range Merc and WONT ut it through a car wash because of the detergents and harsh brushes.

He said he would welcome a weekly clean so have any of you guys been approached or done any as part of your business.

I've dont the van windows and the Mrs' car and it does work well.

Regards,

Sarill
Sarah

Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2005, 09:00:28 pm »
HI Sarill

I do my van and the cars every week, the only thing i would suggest, is to use a very soft brush. I bought a water fed car brush on a pole for i believe £20 on ebay and it does the business fine.

Andrew

P.s. they come up really shinney and spot free  ;D

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2005, 09:01:41 pm »
i.e dont use a monofilament brush it will scratch the paintwork

dave

Sarah Sarill

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2005, 09:09:50 pm »
Does pure water activate rust quicker than normal water then  cos if it does I'd better stop using it on the old van !!!

Sarah

Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2005, 09:13:05 pm »
Hi Sarill

Judging by the rust spots appearing on my van, i would say YES

Andrew

Sarah Sarill

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2005, 09:15:42 pm »
Better not diversify into that one then.  Especially on top end cars !!!!!

Well back to the drawing board for some winter revenues !!!!

Regards,

Sarill
Sarah

poles apart

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2005, 06:38:28 pm »
On a couple of sites I do I'm asked to clean cars. I charge £5 and it takes 5 mins. Pays the ever increasing fuel bill! Ionic now market a car cleaning kit. Pure water cleans cars really well without detergent although you need a cloth for the weels.

Sarah Sarill

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2005, 06:51:46 pm »
Poles Apart,

Have you found that the water does attack the rust then ?

I am aprehensive to start promoting this if the water reacts to even the tiniest rust spot but if the trolley is out and its quick money in the winter months I am up for it !!!

Regards,

Sarill
Sarah

Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2005, 07:16:53 pm »
I'm not so sure that pure water would make a car rust quicker than say, rain water.

I'm also positive there's a new product out - designed to clean cars - that's meant to fliter the water, ie make it pure to leave your car clean.  It's designed for domestic use and probably works as well as those squeegies you see sold at markets.

Also, I may be wrong here, but surely rainwater must be fairly pure.  It's evaporated into the sky without its impurities and falls to the ground, or on your car!  It may collect impurities from the atmosphere on the way down though!

Sarah Sarill

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2005, 07:27:32 pm »
Tosh,  I also saw that one advertised on TV.

Wonder if its worth doing when your rained off the windows during the winter months ?

Would you pay to have someone clean your car at home ?

How much would you pay ?

Regards,

Sarill
Sarah

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2005, 07:53:58 pm »
This is about as good an idea as wheels on the feet of your ladder. ::)

Pure water will take the polish or wax straight off it, so Mr.Lazy then has to polish his car instead of washing it.

It's like using Fairy,
All the shine will be gone, and with it any protection,
 
Hence, matt cars will just fade, and god knows what it will do to laquer on a metallic.

You must use wash-and-wax to preserve the proper polish.

Take it from a valeter...

poles apart

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2005, 08:27:33 pm »
Sarill
Iwould imagine that it would attack rust 'faster' but then I don't get asked to clean rusties. Never one to turn down easy money though!
Poles Apart

Sarah Sarill

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2005, 08:34:31 pm »

Pure water will take the polish or wax straight off it, so Mr.Lazy then has to polish his car instead of washing it.

It's like using Fairy,
All the shine will be gone, and with it any protection,
 
You must use wash-and-wax to preserve the proper polish.

Take it from a valeter...


Thanks for your experienced comments squeeky Clean, however I dont know what a matt car is.  Is this some car valeting term for a car finish ? 

Also how many washes would it take to break down the surface without polishing after the pure water ?

I'm with you poles apart -  hate to turn down money especialy during the winter !!!

Regards,

Sarill
Sarah

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2005, 08:47:41 pm »

Thanks for your experienced comments squeeky Clean, however I dont know what a matt car is.  Is this some car valeting term for a car finish ?

My apologies Sarill.

I didn't mean a matt finish, that would be a pretty dull car! :-\

What I meant was a plain gloss colour as opposed to a sparkly metallic.

Like you say, if they're happy to pay it let them.
I just said it would take the shine off that's all.

Cheers, Roger.

Sarah Sarill

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2005, 08:54:42 pm »
Roger

No need to apologise for my silly question - cant you tell i am contmplating some pretty diar additional revenue ideas eh !!!!   wfp Car cleaning - who's have thought !!!!

How many clean do you think it would take to notice the finish fading ?  (my real question is how long do you think I can get away with it before they start asking questions)  :P

Regards,

Sarill
Sarah

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2005, 09:13:33 pm »
What you do wouldn't fade the paintwork itself (at least I don't think so).

What I mean is, after one clean you'll take away any polish and the polymers in it.

This means the car has no sun protection, and will fade over time.
How long depends on how new and how good the paint is.
But a Bmw will still fade like a Lada, honest!

You've surely seen ex-red cars going about which are a flat pink.
This is what happens to cars which aren't polished.
I've had it happen in as little as two weeks, depends how sunny it is.
It mainly affects top surfaces, ie:bonnet, boot, roof.

Shouldn't be a problem on modern metallics, but I don't know how pure water will affect the laquer. ???

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2005, 09:16:36 pm »
Never done so much typing! :o

williamx

Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2005, 09:22:24 pm »
I have found that pure water discolours my tee shirts, I also seen to get quite a few holes.

Would pure water that comes into contact with the paint of a car have an effect? don't know, but I don't think I will try just in case.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2005, 09:35:56 pm »
What are some of the potential issues with DI or RO water?

Deionized water is very aggressive from a chemical perspective—which means that it can begin to dissolve almost anything it contacts, increasing corrosion on your plates and press components, unless your fountain solution contains corrosion inhibitors. This type of water can also lead to over-emulsification of inks.



not my words ,taking from an extract from the printing industry

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Mobile wpf Car cleaning-an opportunity ???
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2005, 09:38:24 pm »
That;s ok  - - you need to excersise your whole hand sometimes.   ;D
I'll take it from the expert. ;D