[APPLEMAIDCLEANING]

Hi all just want to know how much you would charge - i know they will be a different because of the area but - just want to see if i have the price right on this one - i dont want to post how much i charge just as it might make some foke put the same price - i am looking for honest prices.

2739 sq meter
1.  Toilets cleaning - daily (14 toilets in total) 5 days
2.  Hoovering ( Class rooms/offices) - weekly
3.  Dusting (skirting board/desks/chairs/computers/ceiling for cobwebs) - weekly
4. Kitchen Cleaning - weekly
Below will be priced by a partner - just above i need to see if i have right for a college.
5. Window Cleaning (Interior) - bi-monthly (once in two months)
6. Window Cleaning (Exterior) - bi-monthly(once in two months)

[Pristine Clean]

If I have this right, 2.739 meters converts to about 9.000 square feet.

Depening on the size and qaulity of the clean on average you can clean 2000 square feet per hour.

Obviously we have not seen the lay out, density, stuff you have to clean, but I would at a guess say there is about 10 - 16 hours worth of cleaning, depending on the rota and how you actually clean.

You would require more than one meber of staff to clean an area of that size.

As for prices, its a fairly large contract and you would need to go in possibly at the low end to win.

Probably under £12.00 to be competitive to say the least.

I it will at least give you an idea of pricing per hour.

Best of luck with it.

[martin19842]

hi there

10.06 sq ft is  1 sq mt, therefore 2739 sq mt is actually 27554 sq ft unless im going crazy.

the big boys will expect 1 employee to cover approx 2500 sq ft per hour.

when you say 14 toilets, is that 14 blocks of 14 items of sanitaryware.  if there are 14 blocks i would expect there to be 6-8 items per block therefore to clean each block daily would say take 20 minutes including floors, splashbacks and mopping the floors.

i would also anticipate that they want walkways and entrance areas done daily ??  if so, is the 2739 sq mt including those areas or not ?

regards

martin

[Pristine Clean]

Yes Martin you are corect, My mistake totally there. That was me doing more than one thing at a time. Busy o phone and forum, shows I cant do too many things at once.

A well done to martin for spotting my error a rather large error at that.

So thats, about 3- 4 cleaners every 10,000 square feet for us. Obviously depends on the amount of time you have to complete the cleaning by.

Now as that is a much larger area, the big boys may even go in alot lower than £11.00  per hour. 

[APPLEMAIDCLEANING]

We are looking at £9.50ph
2500 per hour per cleaner

So yes i was on the right road - so glad im not quoting the windows

Dean Tabnar or Crystal Clean Nottingham if you are reading this i will need you to possibly meet up and do a quote on windows once every 2 months we might do the inside or get you to quote this also 

[johnnyzooph]

Hi Andrew
Hope you don't mind if I ask you a question.
Is your price based on labour and cleaning chemicals only or do you provide loo rolls, hand towels, dishwasher tabs etc?

[Nick Vassilev]

Hi there,

I guess I have the final word on calculating . Actually 2739 sq m = 29,471 sq ft (1 sq m = 10.76)

I have seen some of the big boys go a lot less than £9.50 just to get the contract though.

Regards,
Nick

[Pristine Clean]

Hi there,

I guess I have the final word on calculating . Actually 2739 sq m = 29,471 sq ft (1 sq m = 10.76)

I have seen some of the big boys go a lot less than £9.50 just to get the contract though.

Regards,
Nick

Hi Nick

Yes you are right on the £9.50 mark. On some contracts we have had to go in as low as £8.50 just to get the contract.

You will find it is not that unusual. Its a case of working on Volume. Even on some contracts you actually lose money. But on the overall group of contracts you make money.

Dave

[Nick Vassilev]

Totally agree, Dave. I was offered once a large office cleaning contract where I was supposed to lose money on the regular cleaning (wages only were estimated to go well over £100k p/a) and my profit was going to come from an annual carpet clean. I refused beacause it's not my cup of tea.

[cleaning-team]

If the collapse of Connaught has not proved a huge wake up call for everyone then this country really is doomed - winning contracts were you LOSE money on them is not business, it is charity and there is only one way this will end up for anyone insane enough to go down that route.

Remember - turnover is vanity, profit is sanity!

[Pristine Clean]

Hi Cleaning team,

Yes I agree! But what are you suppose to do...? Not have any work? How will you grow any company?

Its the Very large companies that set the Pricing wars. And to compete... we have to match the price.

But if you look at the strategies they use, they fall down on not keeping their eye on all costs, not just by going in cheaply and just concentrate on turnover. They do this because on some tenders if your turnover does not equal a certain amount then they cannot tender for that specific contract.

Also every company large or small every so often you either breaks even or even loses money on some jobs. You dont always make a profit on every job

Dave

[cleaning-team]

Hi Cleaning team,

Yes I agree! But what are you suppose to do...? Not have any work? How will you grow any company?

Its the Very large companies that set the Pricing wars. And to compete... we have to match the price.

But if you look at the strategies they use, they fall down on not keeping their eye on all costs, not just by going in cheaply and just concentrate on turnover. They do this because on some tenders if your turnover does not equal a certain amount then they cannot tender for that specific contract.

Also every company large or small every so often you either breaks even or even loses money on some jobs. You dont always make a profit on every job

Dave

Why don't you always make a profit on every job? Why bother with work if you are losing money? Why did we all go into business? Not to lose money, I hope?

If you cannot compete on price then you need to find some other way to win - undercutting and losing money at the same time is pointless and the only people who win are the customers.

[Nick Murnin]

 I never agreed with finding USPs but I think you have to otherwise you will be constantly involved in price wars with big companies who can afford to absorb it. Thats not to say you should not go in cheap as part of your long term strategic goal. For example if your goal is to work in schools it may be worth going in cheap with a view to gaining more work via refferals to other schools (you are unlikly to get this volume of refferals in the private sector)

It may also be part of your long term strategic goal to get on with LAs where turnover does matter as most LAs work on a 20% policy, that is if the contract the LA is offering is worth more than 20% of your annual turnover you are unlikely to be a succesfull candidate.