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C-N-C

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WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« on: September 06, 2010, 05:57:01 pm »
Hiya guy's
Any ov you thinking about splashing out on a new 40/40 HF5 RO?????

Please read this thread or even my last post etc....i have very low tap pressure & opted for,the low pressure 40/40 & had nothing but trouble with it now

(LINK BELOW)
Be careful!!!!!!

Kindest regards
Justin :(

LINK-  http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=107125.new;topicseen#new

wayne 77

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 07:44:32 pm »
I have low pressure 1.5 psi on gauge tds of 180 and get a product of 5, pressure drops if any  taps etc used,ro system from WCW no problems hope you sort out yours justin

C-N-C

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 08:04:43 pm »
hiya wayne mate.....
Thank you fella....
Is that 1.5 bar or 15 psi mate???? i'd be intrested to know man ;)
My pressure drops if taps toilet used etc....no one dare turn tap's on when me system on man...LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D
But my tds use to be 14ppm ,new about 7 weeks ago...now it's 37ppm & riseing & GAPS just fobbed me off man & said my pressure to low......deal with it (not them exact words):'( :'( :'( :'(
They have never offered any solution man.........after sales crap...i'v heard that before,now i know they are >:( >:( >:(
Thank you again mate

Take care & kindest regards
Justin ;)

wayne 77

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 09:33:49 pm »
sorry mate 1.5 bar 20 psi got company round to much vino cheers

C-N-C

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 01:36:09 pm »
Thanks wayne mate ;)
mine is only that when i close dain fella..... :o :o :o
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got company round to much vino cheers
???didnt understand that tho bud...... :-[

Thank you again man

Take care & kind regards
Justin ;)

Rob Smith

Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 01:53:13 pm »
I think he meant....got friends round and getting drunk... ;D


Good luck with your unit

C-N-C

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 02:04:50 pm »
LOL.....
That makes sense now rob.....thanx ;D ;D
Vodka man myself ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Good luck with your unit
Thank you rob mate...
Think im gunna try & sell it bud :( :( :( :(

Take care man
Justin

Darranvps

Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 02:11:09 pm »
Do you flush your RO regularly?
If not - fully open your waste water valve, so your tap water is running straight through the RO membrane, do this for 20 - 40 mins.
Then close the valve so as to produce pure water and after a short while your TDS should drop down to more or less what you had before.

Smart Carpet

Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 02:36:16 pm »
Why don't you get an RO booster pump dude?  Initial outlay, but at least it would solve your problem!

C-N-C

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2010, 02:44:52 pm »
Do you flush your RO regularly?
If not - fully open your waste water valve, so your tap water is running straight through the RO membrane, do this for 20 - 40 mins.
Then close the valve so as to produce pure water and after a short while your TDS should drop down to more or less what you had before.

Hiya darran mate ;)
Yes i flush regular man...everytime i use system(nealy everyday) ;)
That's also how i start system bud......drain fully open & close till i get best tds....

Thank you for ya help fella,appreciate it man ;)

Hiya j ;)
Going to look @ 1 now man....bought this low pressure system,thinking it was made for my low psi.....HOW I WAS WRONG MATE ::) ::) ::)

Been back onto GAPS...not intrested in refund or even credit note.......thought so!!!!
They did give a few suggestions tho guy's.....not me money back tho :(

Big thank you for ya help guy's ;)
Cheer's j ;)

Take care fella's & be carefull wot ya buy ;D

Kindest regards
Justin ;)

Smart Carpet

Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2010, 02:56:27 pm »
The thing is, that the RO relies on the water pressure to force the water through the semi-permeable membrane..

If the pressure just isn't there it isn't going to work properly... even if it is a low pressure membrane...

My water pressure is 120 PSi, which is very good for mains.. Low would be 30psi IMO.. and too low for a RO to work efficiently...

The lower the pressure the more problems you are going to have..  :(

Try a booster pump and let us know how you get on!

SPE

Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2010, 04:14:46 pm »
Justin, I think others are right mate, even though its for low pressure, 10 psi is pushing it.
I would'nt bother selling it, get it paired up to the right booster pump and it'll be happy days  :D

Incidentally, if any other 4040 users have a booster pump I would be interested in what brand and where you bought it, as thinking of getting one myself. Are any of the ones in machine mart any good ?
Simon

C-N-C

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2010, 04:16:50 pm »
Hiya J mate..... ;)

120 psi......  JESUS MAN.... :o :o :o :o :o

Any houses for sale near you man....LOL

I get the picture bud ;)
Just with this being a low pressure ro...i thought 8psi would be okay...... ::) ::)

Thank you again mate & take care

Justin ;)

C-N-C

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2010, 04:21:34 pm »
Justin, I think others are right mate, even though its for low pressure, 10 psi is pushing it.
I would'nt bother selling it, get it paired up to the right booster pump and it'll be happy days  :D

Incidentally, if any other 4040 users have a booster pump I would be interested in what brand and where you bought it, as thinking of getting one myself. Are any of the ones in machine mart any good ?
Simon

Hiya simon bud ;)
Sorry ya posted just before me ::)
I know now mate,that even with a low psi membrane....pressure as low as mine wont work ;).........knew it was to good to be true simon man ;D
As you mentioned it mate....gaps advised me to get a 1 from machine mart....
I will post the model if ya intrested simon?

Thank you again mate

Take care & kindest regards
Justin ;)

C-N-C

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2010, 04:47:52 pm »
Simon mate....
The pump i was told to get was -
CBM240e from machine mart........looks a lot like the spare transfere pump i got!!!!

Strange that....are they just transfere pumps like this ???

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Water_transfer.htmltransfere pump


http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cbm240e-1in-multi-stage-230v-booster-pum?da=1&TC=RV-051011132 booster pump from machine mart


Or a bit cheaper here-  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Clarke-CBM240E-1-Multi-Stage-230v-Booster-Pump-/170490436972?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27b2059d6c&x=26&y=9

Do you think they look the same man??? 8) 8) 8)

Kindest regards
Justin ;)

wayne 77

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2010, 05:09:10 pm »
justin i turn on water for 5 mins to flush then close the valve and get a reading of 1.5 bar and roughly 80 lt an hour takes forever to fill tank when full open valve and run for 5mins no reading on gauge. i will also look at booster pump i  get a lot of waste. unger rep said i should have gone di not ro system as tds of 180 is good.

mikecam

Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2010, 06:35:14 pm »
I use a 40/40 HF5 with something similar to this....
here

B and Q do an own brand pump similar to that £139 one at the cleaning spot, for £30 ish wich is higher pressure than that too.

I use a header tank as the suction from these pumps may well be faster than your mains can supply it.

niceandclean

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2010, 06:44:17 pm »
Justin

Sorry to hear you are having problems with your HF5.
I am in Berkshire at the moment and have just tested the HF5 i have here.
Un-pumped with a filling pressure of 27psi and after a good 5 min flush TDS in 363 and TDS out after 10 mins, 24.
Pumped with filling pressure of 65psi TDS in 363 and TDS out 11.
After comparing your figures with mine, maybe you need to put a decent pump on it.
I have 2 of these, http://www.ro-man.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=245, the one on my RO-Man system is about 4 years old now.
Also, may be worth getting some bigger hose to go from your tap to up your flow rate.

Window Washers

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Re: WARNING!!!!! HF5 40/40 with low pressure
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2010, 06:48:19 pm »
Justin, I think others are right mate, even though its for low pressure, 10 psi is pushing it.
I would'nt bother selling it, get it paired up to the right booster pump and it'll be happy days  :D

Incidentally, if any other 4040 users have a booster pump I would be interested in what brand and where you bought it, as thinking of getting one myself. Are any of the ones in machine mart any good ?
Simon
I use a clarke booster pump, pushes out over 300 Litres an hour,

Will find a link to it in a mo
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Window Washers

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If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)