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dai

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My new DIY WFP system
« on: September 08, 2005, 10:03:34 pm »
I had been thinking about building  a WFP system since I saw Matt's.
I wanted to build a system that anyone could make for themselves without any welding or outside help.
It is based on an aluminium sack truck from Machine Mart. most of the rest is made from scrap and car boot items.
If you have basic metal working skills, a hacksaw or 41/2 angle grinder, a drill and a few spanners, you can build one.
The aluminium box was once someones overall locker, I bought this and some bits of alloy plate for £10 at a salvage yard.
The bottom tray was a part of a kitchen worktop I rescued from a skip.
The container rack is made from some old ladders, the suporting columns are alloy tube with some threaded bar running through them.
The box handle that hooks onto the trolley is made the same way. the small handle
and most of the bolts and fitting are car boot items, as was the hose reel and roller guide.
The only place that the sack truck is drilled is where I fastened on the bottom tray to the toe plate. Every thing else is just bolted on using homemade alloy clamps and angle.
I fitted a scabbared for the pole as an after thought, it's a great timesaver when doing houses next door to each other.
I was lucky finding the box, you could make on with alloy sheet and angle pop rivetted together.
The cost.
The truck about £50 from machine mart
The 60psi Surflow pump off e-bay £80 to the door, [I think you could do better.
The veriflow unit and 30 metres of tricoflex hose from williams pumps about £130
The 85 amp hour battery £37.00.
I bought a 33ft Unger transporter pole, Vycan brush, DI vessel and resin from Wintecs, about three hundred quid with a few other bits
All in all about six hundred and thirty quid>
I am going DI only to start> TDS is only forty odd where I work< Dai

P @ F

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2005, 10:11:27 pm »
Superb Dai , nice little set up you done there , im liking it much , i like to see it when people have done there own thing , it just shows how easy people can get started with limited budget

  Rich  P @ F ;)
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Moderator David@stives

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2005, 10:15:17 pm »
watch out for that bottom bolt piercing the battery   ;D

AuRavelling79

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2005, 10:41:18 pm »
Awesome Dai! Absolutetely awesome! How big are those containers?
It's a game of three halves!

matt

Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2005, 10:52:42 pm »
Awesome Dai! Absolutetely awesome! How big are those containers?

they look like 25 L to me

Dai, well done :)

do you find the 50 L's a bit on the heavy side, i only use 1 25L drum now, as its easier to move around

Oh Dai, go and add it over on the DIY site, come the darker evenings im going to add a few other pages, so we can all have a page with a write up etc :)

dai

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2005, 04:22:37 pm »
I use both 20 and 25litre containers. The box acts as a counter weight for them. Good point about the bolt Dave,I'll saw it off over the weekend.
I left the bolts holding the bottom tray protruding, they act as a break when on a slope. Theirs a charge plug on the side of the box,[the same one as on a towbar]
I fixed a mail plug on my domestic charger but it will also charge from the van relay when it's fitted.
It works well I'm really pleased with it. As Matt has said many times, Same pump, same controller, same battery. Pure water comes out of the brush. Why pay £2grand. If I want a van or trailer system all I need is a tank, the box will take care of the rest. DAI

REVIVE-A-DRIVE

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2005, 04:39:10 pm »
how many cleans can u get out of those tanks?

dai

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2005, 05:09:38 pm »
I'm only doing the tops, I managed to do 20 the other day with 6 containers, about
130 litres, I'm a newby to this game though, and they were first time with WFP.
I can put the DI vessel on the trolley if I need to top up as I go. TDS is around 45 out of the tap where I was working,  DAI

matt

Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2005, 06:19:58 pm »
i did 23 houses with 125 L yesterday, just tops mind you

not bad really

AuRavelling79

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2005, 09:05:28 pm »
As this thread is now talking about water usage - perhaps I can add my twopenn'orth:-

On Monday I teamed up with a mate to do a large (for us) commercial.

It consists of two large office blocks rising to two levels joined by a common low-level reception. The two "wings" are virtually identical in layout - he did one, I did the other and we took about the same length of time.

I used my trolley system (Aquatec - Peter Fogwill) with remote control and variable waterflow 60psi pump box and used 150 litres. He used 300 litres from a tank (with his system set at a fixed flow rate from 100 psi pump) in his car. We both had vikan 10" brushes.

As the blocks are empty and we did the insides too we could see the quality of our work close up from inside and both were very good and of the same quality.

Just goes to show that with the right "add-ons" you can use much less water if you need to.
It's a game of three halves!

H h20

Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2006, 09:47:07 pm »
Dai,i had to bring this post back,what a cracking trolley set up,i must of missed it when you first posted it,there has been some thought and effort gone into that,
have you made any changes to it for any reason,who needs to buy one all ready made,you are an inspiration,good on yer Dai,Gaz  ;)

brett walker

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2006, 10:22:15 pm »
I agree with Gaz, great looking trolley :)

There are some great diy trolleys that people have put a great deal of ideas and effort into designing.   8)

I'll admit im not very hands on when it comes to diy so i took the easy option and bought one but i'll take my hat off to anyone that has built their own 8)

Pure evolution
Brett

Peter Fogwill

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2006, 11:14:49 pm »
That's the best use of ladders I have seen in a long time Dai.  You won't fall off them.

Peter Fogwill

dai

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Re: My new DIY WFP system
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2006, 09:43:39 pm »
I changed the position of the battery. It's ok in the box when you have full containers, but  was not very well balanced when they are empty. I put  it down between the wheels in a open fronted alloy box. I also added a second pole carrier for the other side. I tend through lazyness to carry the pole round extended on some jobs. It works a treat. DAI