cheers ableclean,
thats what i was interested in some figures as you say its an experiment and i just wanted some sort of indication of what to expect from some of you guys who have been experimenting for years, as for the point you make about y/p going purely althabetical from next year the rep i spoke to told me that this is not the case the format is going to change and the dots etc wont work because the listings are going to be randomly generated from a computer this is meant to be starting next month but wont get to my area untill the directory after next so advised me to do the dots for this year.