well said gary but when you get someone who is out to get your custys you will see what i meen, ive got nothing against any ladder man what so ever , just the one whos kicking me so this is what im doing it for .
there is plenty of work out there for every one , no need to start slaging my work off and undercutting to get my custys that ive done for years.
i only found out what he was saying to them when one of my custys told me . ive not lost one yet thankfully.