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dazmond

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2010, 01:02:24 am »
tws are you wfp or ever used wfp?

i never used to clean the frames on a lot of my work pre wfp but the windows are coming up miles better than trad if im being honest most of the time!!i also get to do most windows above connies/skylights/2nd floor stuff.

i only trad the odd downstairs windows and my granny flats now!!

wfp defo does a more thorough clean and after the second or 3rd cleans they will just be maintenance cleans as they will be almost still clean when i turn up again with my brush and "magic " water!!!
price higher/work harder!

cat9921

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2010, 08:16:48 am »


ive noticed some spotting on some windows from my first cleans but custys happy second time round as they ve come up virtually spotless!

will they get even easier on third/fourth/fifth cleans?


regards

dazmond

NO if you get spotting on a second clean than this is a indication that you have a problem window  :'(

Why do we say it takes three cleans to get the window right.

1st cleans are the worst pure water reacting to all that soap on the glass and dripping out of the vents :'(

2ed cleans the windows should come up perfect if not you know that you need to change how you clean the window most will come good about 95%

3ed cleans will come up good as long you know how to clean that 5% of windows that give you a problem, if you just go over it like before then you will get spotting every time

3 is the magic number for a reason  ;D

Adders

dazmond

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2010, 08:21:59 am »
tws its not about whether wfp does a better job!

can you clean upper windows a lot safer?YES!!

can you clean bigger properties faster?YES!

can you reach most awkward windows and frames?YES!

can you clean to the same standard as trad?YES!(after first cleans on most windows)

am i less tired at the end of the day compared to ladders?YES!

will i clean more windows in a day?YES!

TRAD IS GOOD but quite frankly its no longer necessary to climb ladders like a lot of us have done 100+times a day!

regards

dazmond
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2010, 08:29:25 am »
adders most are coming up great second time.the odd one that isnt im blading off.the odd wooden window has caused me the odd problem(runs)probably due to me cleaning the window directly under an opener too quickly and not giving a chance for the above window to stop dripping!im learning fast though!! ;) ;D ;D



regards

dazmond
price higher/work harder!

LQQK

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 08:30:24 am »
I hate to say, but told you so Daz.

My controller is on 50-60 usually.

Higher sometimes.

dazmond

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2010, 09:01:21 am »
i do still trad the odd fussy custys downstairs windows but im finding while ive got the pole in my hand why not just crack on and do all of em wfp? ;) ;D ;D ;D

i reckon itll pay off in the long run as the less i trad the downstairs  windows the better as they will become more "wfp friendly"as ill be getting rid of all the ingrained dirt and soap that gets left behind with trad!!

im defo becoming a wfp convert! ;) ;D ;D


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

tws

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2010, 09:21:27 am »
daz iv never used wfp iv only watched somebody else using it and i was not impressed it looked very poor but thats no refection on you  :) i was talking about your custies perspective of  wfp not yours,im aware of the many benefits it has but i still feel most custies would opt for you as a traditional cleaner given the choice, its interesting that's all as i said im glad its working out for you. 

EZclean

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2010, 09:31:36 am »
daz iv never used wfp iv only watched somebody else using it and i was not impressed it looked very poor but thats no refection on you  :) i was talking about your custies perspective of  wfp not yours,im aware of the many benefits it has but i still feel most custies would opt for you as a traditional cleaner given the choice, its interesting that's all as i said im glad its working out for you. 

thats the biggest problem with trad cleaners looking at wfp.. they worry about the customer. "oh my customers wont stand for that" is what one w/c said to me while working a few doors away. " really. whats the difference between my customers and yours?"

its simple. they dont get a choice and i give them clean windows
EZclean - Cleaner Than Water

Newannaive

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2010, 11:38:08 am »
they do have a choice though... i've picked a few up cos they did'nt like the wfp used by there w/c

EZclean

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2010, 12:10:27 pm »
they do have a choice though... i've picked a few up cos they did'nt like the wfp used by there w/c

Yes THEIR window cleaner.
Just like I used to pick up customers when TRAD as they didn't like the other TRAD guy
EZclean - Cleaner Than Water

cat9921

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Re: im wfpoling nearly ALL windows now!!
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2010, 07:40:23 pm »
daz iv never used wfp iv only watched somebody else using it and i was not impressed it looked very poor

Thats because your a scratty, tatty window cleaner  ;D

Us wfp  window cleaners are sorry that pure water window cleaning can clean more windows not put holes in gardens with ladders, Leave windows cleaner for longer, Give customers more privacy and not ask them to move the cars to get to windows, as well as not needing to go on as many roofs and breaking tiles

BUT HA you think it looks poor  ;)

Adders  :-*