[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys,


I see from an Amtech advert that they have launched a portable which uses the heat generated from the vacuum motors to heat the water.

This allows hot water cleaning with only one 13 amp cord.

Is this the way portables will go in the future?

Cheers

Doug

[williamx]

Doug

I can't see how the vac exhaust can heat the water hot enough

[Michel Roberts]

Doug

What ad is this.  Deatails please

Regards Michel

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys,

It's on Cleantalk in the manufacturers section.

There are various claims as to heat performance etc.

Cheers

Doug

[garyj]

I pity the poor guy who found out you can heat your water using the vacuum motors   

[nick.solution]

Hi Guys

It may present a cooling problem with the vac motors themselves. overheating the motor could cause premature breakdown of the brushes and the motors themselves.

Best regards Nick

[garyj]

The whole idea doesn't sound feasible does it?
How are you going to heat 50-60 litres of water to 60 odd degrees using the heat from a vac motor?? I had to check the date to make sure it wasn't April 1st.
I'm off to Cleantalk for a look ( bet its an American idea ).

[Ian Hare]

UK SPECIFICATIONS Pro 500 Perfect Heat
Perfect Heat System
In-line Electric Heat Exchanger
Tank Capacity 56 Litres
Vac Motor 2 x 3 stage in series
Water lift 240"
p.s.i. adjustable up to 500
GPM 1.35
Twin mains lead (pigtail) - 25ft
Tank construction medium density polyethylene
Dump Valve rear mounted hose drain
12" non-marking wheels
Dimensions 29" x 41" x 22"
Warranty 10 yrs tank, 1 year motor

[garyj]

Had a look at cleantalk and can't find it

Ian, I presume this is the machine that is being talked about?

[Martin S]

Gary,

It was on the 'Manufacturers' section of cleantalk this morning, but looks like it has been removed!!!

Ian H,

I thought I read that it used a combination of heat exchange Vac' motors and an in tank heating element in the pro-500.

I may have read it wrong though.

[mark_roberts]

Sounds a good idea though if it worked as theres a lot of waste heat from the motors in any machine.  While it may not heat up to 90c if it could make the water luke warm it would make the inline heat exchangers job a lot quicker and more heat.

Mark

[Kinver_Clean]

If you check the exhaust air temperature you will find it usually gets up to 80-90 deg C. with a high volume. Especially with the three vac mcs. If this is blowing out of the bottom of the mc, as most seem to, it could cause problems with over heating the surface it is standing on, esp. laminates.  It may not heat the water more than 60 or so but thats better than cold. If you have an inline that will not heat the water to a higher temp the water going in at 50-60 will produce high output temp. One manufacturer played about with the idea several years ago but nothing came of it,

Trevor

[Ian Hare]

http://www.perfect-heat.com/

[therapist]

Nothing new in heat exchangers. I remember having a discussion about 20 years ago with someone hoping to market a heat exchanger method of central heating.

I think Bane Clene  make use of this otherwise, waste of energy.

I'd be extremely surprised, if utilising the heat generated from these machines, were to cause additional stresses.

robert m

[Brent]

Hi All

I have a Columbus Portable with an in-line water heater. This has only one 13 amp plug for the whole machine. This heats the solution as it is being pumped to the wand. There is a red light on the heater if this comes on then the solution is not as hot as it should be, you normally get 20-30 seconds use then you have to wait about10 secsonds for it to heat up again, annoying i know. To combat this i put warm water in the clean water tank and hey presto it squerts hot water all the time. I have no specifications on this machine except that it is a Columbus EX 30 the water heater is 1800w any more info. on this machine would be greatful.

It works a treat !

Brent

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