[james44]

Hi just to let peeps know if they are thinking of starting out in wheelie bin cleaning,

Went on one of the business forums last night and there is a poster on there who says his local council has taken over the cleaning of bins with a adapted lorry that washes the bins after it has emptied them,

He goes on to say he has been told that it will become national for all councils to have these adapted lorries,

How true this is i don`t know but i hope to contact him today to clarify,

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   Could this be the end for bin cleaners
« on: February 27, 2010, 02:48:17 PM »    Reply with quote Modify message Remove message
been looking at this vid on you tube, could your local council latch onto this and adapt there trucks to do this and charge tennants include it into there council tax?

there must be millons of wheelie bins on council propertys

if tennants are paying for this service from wheelie bin companies whats to stop your council doing the same using the method on the youtube vid

It really could net the local councils millons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUN8PzkuhJo&feature=related

here is another link to the system

is this why there is a lot of wheelie bin cleaning businesses up for sale do they know something?

http://www.dynaset.com/binwash.html
   

This i posted months ago was i right?

[james44]

Here is the post from the forum for those who have interest in this!

I may be incorrect here but dont the new bin trucks actually clean the interior of the bin as they lower is (after emptying). I know they do in my area and I heard about it becoming a national thing soon. May be worth investigating it as I don't think anyone would pay for what they get for free and that could lead to a short-lived company

[FRESHER]

Is this scenario becoming more likely?

[FRESHER]

I also notice Spectrum Advanced Services has gone into liquidation,  they used to make good equipment apparently?

[Scoop]

I think it speaks volumes that James original post was nearly 2 years ago.

Adding this technology has a triple cost: machinery investment, increased crew times and increased lorry servicing times between empties (how long does it take to empty and then refill 2 tons of water every time you empty the lorry?)

Councils are notoriously bad at implementing new ideas like this and it doesn't mean that because one has done it the others will all follow suit.

Plus how often are the bins washed and how much do they charge. My customers have 2 bins (landfill and recycle, plus some have green waste bin) and I do the landfill every 4 weeks and the recycles every 8 weeks at £2.50 a go. This Gives an annual bill of about £50 which many will pay. If the bins were washed at every empty the bill would be £130 which isn't the same thing.

I can't see the councils offering free bin cleaning when they've got no money. They're introducing a £25 a year charge for green bins round here. And I can't see the punters paying what the council will want to charge. Bin cleaning tends to run at 3-6% of the population in any one area. If the council charge then the crew is constantly looking down a list to see which bin to wash and which ones not. More time wasted.

The only way this would work is if the EEC or the government suddenly force the councils to wash everyones bin, say twice a year, free of charge for hygiene reasons.

And even then I think the councils would be better to call the local bin cleaner in, offer them a contract to do it and help them gear up for the new equipment through advanced 3 month payment or something. I'd be up for it 

[trevor perry]

I think it speaks volumes that James original post was nearly 2 years ago.

Adding this technology has a triple cost: machinery investment, increased crew times and increased lorry servicing times between empties (how long does it take to empty and then refill 2 tons of water every time you empty the lorry?)

Councils are notoriously bad at implementing new ideas like this and it doesn't mean that because one has done it the others will all follow suit.

Plus how often are the bins washed and how much do they charge. My customers have 2 bins (landfill and recycle, plus some have green waste bin) and I do the landfill every 4 weeks and the recycles every 8 weeks at £2.50 a go. This Gives an annual bill of about £50 which many will pay. If the bins were washed at every empty the bill would be £130 which isn't the same thing.

I can't see the councils offering free bin cleaning when they've got no money. They're introducing a £25 a year charge for green bins round here. And I can't see the punters paying what the council will want to charge. Bin cleaning tends to run at 3-6% of the population in any one area. If the council charge then the crew is constantly looking down a list to see which bin to wash and which ones not. More time wasted.

The only way this would work is if the EEC or the government suddenly force the councils to wash everyones bin, say twice a year, free of charge for hygiene reasons.

And even then I think the councils would be better to call the local bin cleaner in, offer them a contract to do it and help them gear up for the new equipment through advanced 3 month payment or something. I'd be up for it 

 spot on

[BDCS]

Wheely bins have only just been started around here - the bins belong to the council though

[FRESHER]

Thanks for helping to update this old topic with a clear and concise view.  I remember reading this a few years ago and wanted to check if things had progressed at all.

[Antony Quinn]

In order to reply to the specific bit of the original post - would it be likely that this could go national?

Definitely, no.  The way that council provide domestic waste services is decided on a local basis, hence when you go from local authority to local authority you see very different waste collection services.  In the same way, cleaning of wheelie bins would not be decided at a national level.