[wayne zabel]

Hi Guys,can anyone give me a little advise please,haven't done any commercial work in my short time CC,today had a call from a local church who have a modern hall they want cleaning.

Its approx 14 x 14  metres,I presume its low profile commercial carpet,I'm going round to look tonight.

Any ideas on how long it should take to do HWE and any ideas about what I should charge?

Thanks

Wayne

[Helen]

Pricing? Who knows, anywhere between £196 and £392 depends how good you are at selling.

[clinton]

Maybe have a go at l m system on the low profile carpets..A good vac first mind you and if its your first job it will take you longer than some of us who do a lot of commercial..

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

Hi,wayne.I think i started about the same time as you going off your posts.
I just won my first decent commercial today,i quoted £270.00 for about 185sqm which worked out at just under £1.50 per sqm if thats any help.
Your area is(i think  : ) 196 sqm....at the same rate it would be - £294.
I would also love to know how long HWE would take aswell,and do i need to worry about wick back when HWE is used on low profiles.cheers

[wayne zabel]

Thanks for the above - I have just been to look at the room and its 15 x 15 mtres.

The carpet is low profile but they did point out that the room has underfloor heating,is this a cause for concern?Also are there any drawbacks to doing this sort of carpet HWE?

Low moisture is not an option as I dont have the facilities.

Any help with this would be much appreciated,I normally use Mark Powell for advice but hes on holiday at the moment.

thanks in advance

Wayne

[davep]

Put a price in for £1.75 sq m, £393.  I will pop over with my LM, 2 hrs work, split the money job a goodun 

[wayne zabel]

Just bringing this to the top to see if I can get a few more replies

[garyfindlay]

How dirty is the carpet? If minging it could be hwe, but if "clean" bonnetting would be the easier option. usually you would bonnet the carpet after hwe to prevent wickback. You could estimate how long it would take you x your hourly rate to get a cost price.

[wayne zabel]

The carpet is quite clean with a few stains here and thre as they have toddler groups using the room.I only have HWE facilities so bonneting is not really an issue

Forgive my ignorance but why is wick back a problem on this type of carpet

[garyfindlay]

any soil that is not removed can "float" to the surface on low profile carpets, if the carpet is left too wet, so lots of dry passes are required, and dried as quick as possible. underfloor heating will help.

[Neil Williams]

Forgive my ignorance but why is wick back a problem on this type of carpet

Over wetting any carpet can cause a problem, if it's low profile tiles then water going between the tiles can draw up all the dirt below the tiles.
If it one piece of low profile then I wouldn't expect wick back.
As for time I would expect 6 hours using HWE, half that for rotary.

[Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)]

Wayne

Like you I'm only HWE. Never had any problems (so far ) and I've done quite a few low profiles in my time.

Roger

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

How do you find out if they are not bitumen backed,i mean if the tiles or carpet are stuck down and you can't lift them to check.
The office carpets i am doing in a few weeks are strips i'm told not tiles.I will have chance to look at it before i do the job,but i'm just a bit worried that if i come accross a stain that needs a solvent based stain remover and i can't lift the carpet to see if it is bitumen backed.Roger will i need to use air movers with HWE on low profiles.Cheers.

[davep]

Well I did offer 

[JandS]

225sq m    might as well call it a  days work.
I reckon on 35sq m an hour with porty.
So what you want for a days work   £300??
That's £1.30 a sq m roughly.

John

[M.Acorn]

So what you want for a days work   £300??

I think i must be a pretty good salesman ! Day rate for me is £700,and have got that repeatedly !
Don`t know what is going on for me at the moment,have booked everything i have quoted,on the spot,thing is now i am in a good financial position,so got even more of a brass neck !
Ordered a new Flo jo pump,and new sol hose today,don`t want my machine breaking next week,as this is a very prestigious company,who are moving too even larger offices,so want to get in their good books

[Helen]

I think i must be a pretty good salesman ! Day rate for me is £700,and have got that repeatedly !

You are obvously in the wrong job and ought to offer yourself out on a consultancy basis, selling carpet cleaning for other businesses. It would be easier for you
£700.00 a day , repeatedly. 3 day week (cos you don't want to be greedy!) 46 weeks per year (6 weeks hols) = VAT registered??? should be no problem with buying new van, equip etc etc.
At least the tax bill won't be a problem now, that must be a relief

[M.Acorn]

Wish i was like that constantly !!!
In reality it`s prob equiv to about 2 weeks over the 6 years i have been running,where i have earned that.

At least the tax bill won't be a problem now, that must be a relief

Was going too submit my latest lot of books,in an attempt to reduce my payment on account,but think i am just going to carry on paying them £400 a month,to try and get back in credit as such

[davep]

How is it a days work?!  Buff it 100sqm a hour (depending on moving furniture) 3 hrs max?

[Joe H]

Thats the difference between a porty and a buffer, Dave.
Getting a buffing machine is a no brainer really.
Same money - less time spent doing it.

Shaun Bradbury from Dry Fusion will be at the NCCA Technical Day in Warrington on Wed June 9th.
I reckon that will be a good day for all those without buffers to have get an insight from a top man in that field.